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    Re: Minn. braces for shutdown at midnight; Democratic gov and GOP lawmakers at odds o

    I wonder how many people are aware that public school funding comes primarily from property taxes.....
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
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    I seriously say let them go. Operating from a place of fear is flat-out ****ing ridiculous. "What? Timmy's going to take his Lego's and go play at Bobby's house? ZOMG! We must stop him!" Bull****.

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    Re: Minn. braces for shutdown at midnight; Democratic gov and GOP lawmakers at odds o

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    They invest at the suffering of their people. Citizens in China work for almost nothing, in horrid conditions...while the Chinese govt. spends money on bridges and factories and cities that sit empty until they rot. Yeah, let's do a LOT of that. Sounds perfect.
    The bold highlights the cough... cough... bull****. Ever been to China? They replace barricades that restrict truck access on a daily basis.
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    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Minn. braces for shutdown at midnight; Democratic gov and GOP lawmakers at odds o

    Quote Originally Posted by toddwv View Post
    Yeah, just like "the plan" has worked for the past 11 years. Declining wages, anemic job growth and an infrastructure that is being allowed to rot around our ears. Hey, at least we can still spend trillions of dollars on unnecessary warfare, amiright?
    as painfull as it may be, you are onto something.
    lets end the wars, all of them, iraq was the only real necessary message to send to state sponsored terrorism.
    so lets end them,
    your guy is in charge.. but dont hold your breath

    "declining wages" is just not true.. (source)
    anemic job growth I will give you, but again, your guy is in charge right?

    and the infrastructure was supposed to be fixed by hiring millions of people with the stimulus money,
    but instead unions both public and private got their hands on it to boost up entitlement shortfalls instead.
    look,
    the liberal party is making clowns out of themselves, but they arent funny clowns...
    this is our future

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    Re: Minn. braces for shutdown at midnight; Democratic gov and GOP lawmakers at odds o

    Aaaaaaaaaand: We're down. G'nite, Gracie.

    Minnesota Government Shuts Down as Talks Fail to Bridge Gap

    Pricks. Unmitigated pricks.

    July 1 (Bloomberg) -- Minnesota's government shut down today, idling thousands of state workers, after Democratic Governor Mark Dayton and Republican legislative leaders failed to resolve a budget stalemate at the start of the new fiscal year.

    Dayton said Republicans refused to accept his proposal to raise taxes to close a $5 billion deficit, and he wouldn't approve a budget balanced solely by cutting spending. The two sides are $1.4 billion apart, he said.
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    Re: Minn. braces for shutdown at midnight; Democratic gov and GOP lawmakers at odds o

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Where do billionaires go when they leave? Europe has high taxes... everywhere that isn't 3rd or 2nd world has high taxes. I am just really interested where they'd go. There are also millionaires in Europe, so they aren't moving out nor have I ever heard that they are leaving in droves. I also know that some cities and townships have really ****ing high tax rates and property taxes, but people live there and choose to all the time.

    In fact, your state, Texas, I am told, has super high property taxes but people still choose to live there and buy property there. Alaska is the same... Alaska has no taxes for individuals, just super high property taxes.

    I know why people live in the local cities and townships here and pay high taxes.... it's because of the things the cities do with those taxes. Really good schools is usually top of the list. In Alaska every person gets an oil dividend or tax credit, so even though they pay super high property taxes they get something back.

    It's the whole, you get what you pay for thing... and America is starting to resemble a second world country IMHO. China is going to surpass us, and they are investing in their country. I don't want to pay higher taxes and feel like I am living in a country that is falling apart, but I would be willing to living in a country that is moving ahead and investing in itself and pay taxes. If you use 100% percent of the tax revenues to simply pay off the debt and let everything else crumble, people are going to be pissed and not enjoy living in America. The country has to be desirable to live in. We want our kids to have opportunities in the future, and want opportunities.
    Looking at houses right now...I can buy a house appraised at 98k with property taxes of $2300 a year, which is just about 2.347%. This is in Dallas county, an area with historically higher tax rates. So as far as high goes??? I can't compare that to another state, never bought or sought a house in one.
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    Re: Minn. braces for shutdown at midnight; Democratic gov and GOP lawmakers at odds o

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    The bold highlights the cough... cough... bull****. Ever been to China? They replace barricades that restrict truck access on a daily basis.

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    China's ghost towns: New satellite pictures show massive skyscraper cities which are STILL completely empty | Mail Online

    China’s Ghost Cities And Malls (Video) | Disinformation

    Poor quality of life for China's population - China.org.cn 97th out of 194...awesome.

    Quality of Life vs. Standard of Living | Ryan McLaughlin
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    Re: Minn. braces for shutdown at midnight; Democratic gov and GOP lawmakers at odds o

    Here's a little state-to-state comparison, MN v TX

    Minnesota
    Income Tax
    For single taxpayers:
    -- 5.35 percent on the first $22,770 of taxable income.
    -- 7.05 percent on taxable income between $23,771 and $74,780.
    -- 7.85 percent on taxable income of $74,781 and above.

    For married couples filing jointly:
    -- 5.35 percent on the first $33,280 of taxable income.
    -- 7.05 percent on taxable income between $33,281 and $132,220.
    -- 7.85 percent on taxable income of $132,221 and above


    Sales Tax
    •The sales tax in Minnesota increased on July 1, 2009 to 6.875 percent.
    •Minnesota's state tax department also administers sales tax for several local governments. Updates of local sales tax rates are posted on the state's Revenue website.
    •The state also imposes a use tax on items purchased elsewhere but used within Minnesota.


    Property Tax
    •Each spring, Minnesota property owners get a property tax bill from their county. Three factors that affect the tax bill are the amount the local governments (town, city, county, etc.) spend to provide services to the community, the estimated market value of the property and the classification of the property (how it is used).
    •Each county property assessor determines the classification (home, apartment, cabin, farm, business) of all property according to its use. Each class of property is then taxed at a different percentage of its value. This percentage, or class rate, is determined by the state legislature.

    The average is 1.27%


    Texas
    Income Tax
    Texas residents pay no personal state income tax.


    Sales Tax
    •Texas has a 6.25 percent state sales tax.
    •Local sales and use taxes levied by cities, counties, transit and special purpose districts can add up to 2 percent to the sales tax, making the combined total on purchases as high as 8.25 percent.

    Texas also offers a tax-free weekend for the purchase of all school-related items (valued under a specific amount), including clothing


    Property Tax
    •Texas does not have a state property tax.
    •Local taxing units -- counties, cities and school districts -- assess and collect property taxes on all real and income-producing tangible personal property not exempt by state or federal law. Personal property -- including automobiles, airplanes, boats and travel trailers -- that does not produce income is mostly exempt from taxation.

    A residential homestead exemption is available for all who owned property on Jan. 1. A greater exemption is available for taxpayers 65 and older or disabled.

    The average is 2.57%.
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    Re: Minn. braces for shutdown at midnight; Democratic gov and GOP lawmakers at odds o

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    They invest at the suffering of their people. Citizens in China work for almost nothing, in horrid conditions...while the Chinese govt. spends money on bridges and factories and cities that sit empty until they rot. Yeah, let's do a LOT of that. Sounds perfect.
    I am not praising China, nor do I desire to live there... The fact is America used to invest in infrastructure and spend money on things like inventing electricity and NASA. Now we have bridges collapsing and killing people. We once put a man on the damn moon. We built the highway system and that was amazing in its time.

    And now it seems you are telling me we have to let China pass us up, because it can ONLY be done on the backs of the people... slave laboring with zero workers rights? America didn't build infrastructure that way, never did.

    But it's ironic to notice that you are conservative and the GOP is trying to hamper worker rights in this country, however, your attitude is still... we can't compete with China, we can't have modern, state of the art infrastructure. Sounds to me like the GOP's attitude is to weaken worker rights for the sake of budgeting, but won't use any proceeds to invest in the country. They won't anything to invest in the country.

    The Chinese government has a different attitude than the GOP, little workers rights but use the proceeds to invest in the country. I am not not saying I agree with what China does, I don't... but it begs the question, why don't you believe in investing in America and when will be the time?

    I think American people lost their drive and their ambition, setting high goals and actually reaching them. We don't want to be the best anymore. People don't want to be a modern high tech country because it involves some government planning, and government officials have duped us into not trusting them instead of expecting them to make us succeed.

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    Re: Minn. braces for shutdown at midnight; Democratic gov and GOP lawmakers at odds o

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    I wonder how many people are aware that public school funding comes primarily from property taxes.....
    That's not true... some communities have a school district tax. If your city or township doesn't have a school district tax, the tax is usually paid through property tax. That's the only two ways I have seen school taxes collected.

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