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    Re: Minn. braces for shutdown at midnight; Democratic gov and GOP lawmakers at odds o

    This is just two sides that are unwilling to compromise. Both are in the wrong.
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    Re: Minn. braces for shutdown at midnight; Democratic gov and GOP lawmakers at odds o

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    Yeah! It's those damn unions! I mean, it were them there damned unions what caused the financial crises which sucked trillions of dollars out of the US economy even as corporations saw record profits and executive pay skyrocketed! It were also them there damned unions what forced us into multiple military conflicts costing us trillions of dollars in direct cost and trillions more in "hidden" costs like interest on the debt and caring for wounded vets! It were also them damned unions what caused them there Republicans to cut taxes for the uber-wealthy during a time of "war"!

    It were the damnable unions!

    Whew! Pass me some of that Kool-Aid because after that tirade, I'm gettin' a might bit thirsty...
    Do you think the states were waging wars? I do not.
    Do you thing public sector unions and the democrat party were not bleeding the taxpayers dry for the unions and the democrats benefit? If you don't see this you are a democrat.
    What do corporations have to do with any of this? The correct answer is nothing. Any other answer means you are a democrat.

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    Re: Minn. braces for shutdown at midnight; Democratic gov and GOP lawmakers at odds o

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    This is just two sides that are unwilling to compromise. Both are in the wrong.
    No. One side, the Republican side, is right. The other side, with the public sector unions and their democrat allies are wrong. They must be stopped. The public sector unions must be destroyed. And the democrats need to be tossed out of power.

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    Re: Minn. braces for shutdown at midnight; Democratic gov and GOP lawmakers at odds o

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    No. One side, the Republican side, is right. The other side, with the public sector unions and their democrat allies are wrong. They must be stopped. The public sector unions must be destroyed. And the democrats need to be tossed out of power.
    The truth is that the state government is split between Democracts and Republicans having control over different areas of the government. You may agree with a parties platform, but the two parties will have to compromise. The failure to compromise is what's wrong, not so much the platforms.
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    Re: Minn. braces for shutdown at midnight; Democratic gov and GOP lawmakers at odds o

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    The truth is that the state government is split between Democracts and Republicans having control over different areas of the government. You may agree with a parties platform, but the two parties will have to compromise. The failure to compromise is what's wrong, not so much the platforms.
    I am fine with a compromise as long as it ends public sector unions, raises now taxes and puts in significant cuts in government spending.

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    Re: Minn. braces for shutdown at midnight; Democratic gov and GOP lawmakers at odds o

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I am fine with a compromise as long as it ends public sector unions, raises now taxes and puts in significant cuts in government spending.
    That's essentially the Republican platform though. Compromise means that you get some and you lose some. They shouldn't expect to receive everything they want when there is a split government.
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    Re: Minn. braces for shutdown at midnight; Democratic gov and GOP lawmakers at odds o

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    That's essentially the Republican platform though. Compromise means that you get some and you lose some. They shouldn't expect to receive everything they want when there is a split government.
    Right now, the lack of the spirit of compromise is more harmful to the nation than than any of the popular political belief systems. Paralysis, at a time when there is a lot of bad stuff going on is the last thing we need. With political beliefs, something may get done to fix it imperfectly, but at least something gets done.

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    Re: Minn. braces for shutdown at midnight; Democratic gov and GOP lawmakers at odds o

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    That's essentially the Republican platform though. Compromise means that you get some and you lose some. They shouldn't expect to receive everything they want when there is a split government.
    5 billion dollar deficit. The need to cut taxes and regulations if they want to grow themselves out of this.

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    Re: Minn. braces for shutdown at midnight; Democratic gov and GOP lawmakers at odds o

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    5 billion dollar deficit. The need to cut taxes and regulations if they want to grow themselves out of this.
    And the other side believes that taxes should be raised to combat the deficit. It's a split government. Democracy has appointed two different parties to be the leaders of this state government in two different branches. Compromises must be made by both sides.
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    Re: Minn. braces for shutdown at midnight; Democratic gov and GOP lawmakers at odds o

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    And the other side believes that taxes should be raised to combat the deficit. It's a split government. Democracy has appointed two different parties to be the leaders of this state government in two different branches. Compromises must be made by both sides.
    This is the problem when someone convinces themselves that only their ideas are valid. Compromise becomes impossible, even if it is necessary because of the sheer weight of populations who see things differently and the pragmatic reality that creates.

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