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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Are you then calling Congress a bunch of domestic terrorist? Or are you saying that the President shouldn't talk to irrational people? Pick your words very carefully, my friend.
    My interpretation is that he's calling the republicans "foriegn leaders" and since Obama promised to meet with foriegn leaders, he would be breaking that promise if he doesn't meet with the repubs.

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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

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    Recess canceled; Senate to work next week on debt


    This is ridiculous. The President decides his fundraisers are more important than sticking around to work on this issue after he lambasted congress for not working hard enough on this issue.

    In response, the Senate cancels their scheduled holiday recess to deal with this issue and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid schedules the Senate to debate authorization of Libya? Are you friggin kidding me???

    I can’t believe these idiots. Standard & Poor is going to drop the U.S. credit rating of AAA to D if it defaults but Harry Reid is scheduling a debate on Libya instead of the debt limit crisis??? Are these morons intentionally trying to destroy America?

    The Libya issue is stupid. The President either broke the law a long time ago or he didn’t. It is preposterous of them to think a bill that gives him authorization now (after the fact) is more important than the debt limit crisis.

    I just can’t believe the insanity of these idiots.
    Has the Senate even put a budget proposal on the table?
    "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." - John Adams

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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Are you then calling Congress a bunch of domestic terrorist? Or are you saying that the President shouldn' talk to irrational people? Pick your words very carefully, my friend.
    It's very clear what I said. Maybe you can answer the question:

    Why would Obama say he'd meet with country leaders who sponsor and are connected to terrorist, but not meet with Republicans in Congress? No you pick your words very carefully... friend.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Did he not call for civility among both parties during that speech? Yes or no will do.
    There's nothing uncivil about No Thank You.

    So was McConnell being "civil" when he said that his only goal is to make sure Obama is not re-elected?

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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

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    There's nothing uncivil about No Thank You.

    So was McConnell being "civil" when he said that his only goal is to make sure Obama is not re-elected?
    That's just plain old politics. Nothing personal... just business.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    It's very clear what I said. Maybe you can answer the question:

    Why would Obama say he'd meet with country leaders who sponsor and are connected to terrorist, but not meet with Republicans in Congress? No you pick your words very carefully... friend.
    If what you said was clear, it wouldn't have been misunderstood. And your latest post doesn nothing to clarify because you have yet to explain why BO's promise to meet with foreign leaders applies to members of the republican party. All you did was ask a question, and a question is not an explanation.

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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    That's just plain old politics. Nothing personal... just business.
    To partisans, "Thanks, but no thanks" is not civil. "You pal around with terrorists" is civil

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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Oh, come now. VP Biden, who was assigned by the President to speak on his behalf during these negotiations, has been in continuous dialog w/the Republican party leadership for well over a month! And all the GOP has managed to agree on is more spending cuts and nothing else.
    I guess you slept through Obama’s first deficit commission, the bipartisan National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform. Using the Obama daughter’s homework comparison, Obama essentially asked someone else to do his homework for him and when it was done, he decided he didn’t like it and asked Biden to do his homework for him. He has waited until the last minute (even his 10 year old daughter is smarter than that) and now he is refusing to “pull an all-nighter” to get this issue resolved.


    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    So, here it is after Cantor walks out of negotiations and the President tells Congress to stop acting like kids and to do their jobs, and public talks both domestically and internationally has heated up warning of the implications of not raising the debt ceiling, only then do we have GOP Senators finally deciding they want to "talk" w/the President. They had their chance to negotiate in good faith, but instead their party comes up with a no tax pledge. Way to keep that door to compromise open.
    Joe Biden himself said that the talks were only intended for each side to report back to their leaders and Republicans made it clear from the very beginning that they wouldn’t vote to raise taxes and would require massive spending cuts as any part of a debt ceiling increase so it’s rather disingenuous of you to claim that the Republicans “had their chance to negotiate in good faith, but instead their party comes up with a no tax pledge” because both sides have been clear about their positions from the very beginning.

    It is also important to note that higher taxes won’t reduce the deficit but spending cuts will. Obama and the Democrats are already demanding spending increases as a part of the debt limit increase and history has shown us that tax increases (as well as debt limit increases) just lead to more government spending. If Obama was serious about this issue he would sit down and negotiate, drop his demands for spending increases and drop his demands for tax increases because neither reduced the debt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    You know, I get so tired of hearing people complain about the President not taking a leadership role in these budget talks. It's not the President's job to do these things. That's Congress' responsibility. They're the ones who control the country's purse strings, i.e., appropriations.

    Again...process, ladies and gentlemen. Understand it and you'll understand why McConnell's "invite" was bogus.
    It is amusing to see you reveal your ignorance of “the process” while chastising the rest of us. You didn’t answer my challenge when I asked for examples of leadership from this President so I will assume you have none. Allow me to educate you a bit on “the process”:

    United States federal budget
    Each year, the President of the United States submits his budget request to Congress for the following fiscal year as required by the Budget and Accounting Act of 1921. Current law (31 U.S.C. § 1105(a)) requires the president to submit a budget no earlier than the first Monday in January, and no later than the first Monday in February. Typically, presidents submit budgets on the first Monday in February. The budget submission has been delayed, however, in some new presidents' first year when previous president belonged to a different party.
    § 1105. Budget contents and submission to Congress
    (a) On or after the first Monday in January but not later than the first Monday in February of each year, the President shall submit a budget of the United States Government for the following fiscal year. Each budget shall include a budget message and summary and supporting information. The President shall include in each budget the following:
    Thanks for the laughs Objective Voice.

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    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post
    Has the Senate even put a budget proposal on the table?
    Nope. The Democrat led Senate isn’t even allowing the Budget Committee to meet (or any other committee that might develop a plan) and Harry Reid won’t even allow a budget markup to be scheduled during the week the Senate voted to forgo its scheduled holiday recess to work on the budget/debt issues.


    The goons aren’t interested in getting anything done, they are playing pure partisan politics and risking the welfare of the U.S. in the process.

    "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Did he not call for civility among both parties during that speech? Yes or no will do.
    Calling for civility among both parties isn’t leadership. Had cpwill’s recollection been accurate, I would have adamantly pointed to that as an example of leadership.

    You see, it is really easy to tell some jerk that is talking crap to your friend that he/she needs to shut up. It is even easier to say “everyone needs to just calm down” etc. However, it takes a spine and some leadership to grab your friend and tell him/her that they are acting like a jerk and they need to shut up.

    As I said, had cpwill been correct, that would have been a clear example of leadership. Unfortunately cpwill was mistaken and the President never did squat about his unruly friends.
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    "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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