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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Oh, come now. VP Biden, who was assigned by the President to speak on his behalf during these negotiations, has been in continuous dialog w/the Republican party leadership for well over a month! And all the GOP has managed to agree on is more spending cuts and nothing else.

    So, here it is after Cantor walks out of negotiations and the President tells Congress to stop acting like kids and to do their jobs, and public talks both domestically and internationally has heated up warning of the implications of not raising the debt ceiling, only then do we have GOP Senators finally deciding they want to "talk" w/the President. They had their chance to negotiate in good faith, but instead their party comes up with a no tax pledge. Way to keep that door to compromise open.



    You know, I get so tired of hearing people complain about the President not taking a leadership role in these budget talks. It's not the President's job to do these things. That's Congress' responsibility. They're the ones who control the country's purse strings, i.e., appropriations.

    Again...process, ladies and gentlemen. Understand it and you'll understand why McConnell's "invite" was bogus.
    Shhhhhh!!!

    The rightwingers are pretending that they don't like it when a politician refuses to meet.

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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Yep. And that's a tactic, just like Obama not agreeing to meet with McConnell... same thing.
    But partisan that you are, you only complain about the dems.

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    When the repubs do it, it's a "tactic". When Obama does the same thing, it's a "lack of leadership"

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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    All they'd have to do is say "We've revisited our stance, and we'd like to discuss it with you." But I wouldn't take a meeting either if they just want to lockstep some more. He doesn't have time for that ****. He already KNOWS that ****. So no meeting necessary.
    How dare he not listen to us say that we're not going to compromise with him!

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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    How dare he not listen to us say that we're not going to compromise with him!
    Doesn't Obama realize that the repubs can't fix this unless he lets the repubs tell him why they can't fix this.

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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    the speech after the Giffords shooting where he basically told his own base to shut up and sit down. I'd call that one a thumbs up.
    Quote Originally Posted by Obama;
    You see, when a tragedy like this strikes, it is part of our nature to demand explanations -- to try to impose some order on the chaos, and make sense out of that which seems senseless. Already we've seen a national conversation commence, not only about the motivations behind these killings, but about everything from the merits of gun safety laws to the adequacy of our mental health systems. Much of this process, of debating what might be done to prevent such tragedies in the future, is an essential ingredient in our exercise of self-government.

    But at a time when our discourse has become so sharply polarized -- at a time when we are far too eager to lay the blame for all that ails the world at the feet of those who think differently than we do -- it's important for us to pause for a moment and make sure that we are talking with each other in a way that heals, not a way that wounds.

    Scripture tells us that there is evil in the world, and that terrible things happen for reasons that defy human understanding. In the words of Job, "when I looked for light, then came darkness." Bad things happen, and we must guard against simple explanations in the aftermath.
    For the truth is that none of us can know exactly what triggered this vicious attack. None of us can know with any certainty what might have stopped those shots from being fired, or what thoughts lurked in the inner recesses of a violent man's mind.
    So yes, we must examine all the facts behind this tragedy. We cannot and will not be passive in the face of such violence. We should be willing to challenge old assumptions in order to lessen the prospects of violence in the future.

    But what we can't do is use this tragedy as one more occasion to turn on one another. As we discuss these issues, let each of us do so with a good dose of humility. Rather than pointing fingers or assigning blame, let us use this occasion to expand our moral imaginations, to listen to each other more carefully, to sharpen our instincts for empathy, and remind ourselves of all the ways our hopes and dreams are bound together.
    I never heard him tell his base to shut up and sit down. In fact, that was an excellent opportunity for him to show leadership by doing just that. Instead he came out with the above “milk toast” comments.

    If he had come out strongly and called on the Democrats to stop it, they probably would have but alas we were left with 6 more months of “Republicans get people killed” chatter from the left.

    An example of leadership? Hardly.
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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    But partisan that you are, you only complain about the dems.
    Mind changing your "lean" in your profile to "Rabid frothing Progressive"? Thanks.


    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    When the repubs do it, it's a "tactic". When Obama does the same thing, it's a "lack of leadership"
    English must not be your primary language. I clearly stated it's a tactic when both do it.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Mind changing your "lean" in your profile to "Rabid frothing Progressive"? Thanks.


    English must not be your primary language. I clearly stated it's a tactic when both do it.
    What's the matter? Your post contains nothing but ad homs. There's absolutely no content. Don't you want to discuss the issue anymore, or are you going to concentrate and discussing me?

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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    What's the matter? Your post contains nothing but ad homs. There's absolutely no content. Don't you want to discuss the issue anymore, or are you going to concentrate and discussing me?
    I'm appealing to any sense of honesty you have to test if it's there. Don't tell me, evil GW Bush stole it and I'm not complaining about your loss loud enough - right?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I've already quoted exactly what Obama stated. Moving the goal posts by changing the qualifiers is intellectually dishonest. No one is claiming Obama promised to meet republicans whenever and wherever they demanded. That's called a "strawman".



    Strawman. I cited that Obama during the 2008 campaign, identified he would meet with foreign leaders connected even to terrorist organizations (Iran for example), without preconditions. I then stated he would not do the same thing with Congress.

    Try to keep up.
    Are you then calling Congress a bunch of domestic terrorist? Or are you saying that the President shouldn't talk to irrational people? Pick your words very carefully, my friend.

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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    I never heard him tell his base to shut up and sit down. In fact, that was an excellent opportunity for him to show leadership by doing just that. Instead he came out with the above “milk toast” comments.

    If he had come out strongly and called on the Democrats to stop it, they probably would have but alas we were left with 6 more months of “Republicans get people killed” chatter from the left.

    An example of leadership? Hardly.
    Did he not call for civility among both parties during that speech? Yes or no will do.

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