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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    It is when Obama will meet with others and has made the claim publically.
    As I've said before "If the conservatives didn't make stuff up, they'd have nothing to say"

    Obama has never promised that he would meet whenever and wherever the republicans demanded

    Can you cite where the Republican leadership has said the same? No?

    Thanks for playing ... we have a nice concession gift for you.
    Can you cite where Obama said he would meet with republicans whenever they demanded it?

    I thought not

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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    You can't negotiate unless you're at the table.
    McConnel has publically stated hat the meeting wasn't for negotiating. He said he wanted to tell POTUS why the repubs won't vote for tax increases. That doesn't require a meeting.

    And speaking about not being at the table

    http://journalstar.com/news/opinion/...350f1bbbd.html

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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    As I've said before "If the conservatives didn't make stuff up, they'd have nothing to say"

    Obama has never promised that he would meet whenever and wherever the republicans demanded
    I've already quoted exactly what Obama stated. Moving the goal posts by changing the qualifiers is intellectually dishonest. No one is claiming Obama promised to meet republicans whenever and wherever they demanded. That's called a "strawman".



    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Can you cite where Obama said he would meet with republicans whenever they demanded it?

    I thought not
    Strawman. I cited that Obama during the 2008 campaign, identified he would meet with foreign leaders connected even to terrorist organizations (Iran for example), without preconditions. I then stated he would not do the same thing with Congress.

    Try to keep up.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    McConnel has publically stated hat the meeting wasn't for negotiating. He said he wanted to tell POTUS why the repubs won't vote for tax increases. That doesn't require a meeting.

    And speaking about not being at the table

    Editorial, 7/2: GOP walkout is shortsighted
    And when, in politics, does what they "say" and what they "do" always follow?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    "I believe that the well-off like me can afford to shoulder higher taxes and reduced benefits. We have a duty to give back to the country that helped us achieve the American Dream, by passing on a healthy economy which ensures that all Americans have the resources and opportunities to pursue their own success."
    Read more: Editorial, 7/2: GOP walkout is shortsighted

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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    I’m glad you asked.

    The point would be to find a way to avert what will likely be the worst economic disaster in U.S. history if he doesn’t sit down with the Republicans to find some common ground and work out a deal.

    The President wants to negotiate with the Taliban for crying out loud, you would think he could handle negotiations with Republicans considering what is at stake. Not this President though.

    He has a choice; he can find a way to get a deal done or he can allow the nation to fall into total economic chaos. Obviously he is choosing the latter. My question to you is why?

    Why is he choosing the US default/disaster scenario?
    Oh, come now. VP Biden, who was assigned by the President to speak on his behalf during these negotiations, has been in continuous dialog w/the Republican party leadership for well over a month! And all the GOP has managed to agree on is more spending cuts and nothing else.

    So, here it is after Cantor walks out of negotiations and the President tells Congress to stop acting like kids and to do their jobs, and public talks both domestically and internationally has heated up warning of the implications of not raising the debt ceiling, only then do we have GOP Senators finally deciding they want to "talk" w/the President. They had their chance to negotiate in good faith, but instead their party comes up with a no tax pledge. Way to keep that door to compromise open.

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    Recess canceled; Senate to work next week on debt


    This is ridiculous. The President decides his fundraisers are more important than sticking around to work on this issue after he lambasted congress for not working hard enough on this issue.

    In response, the Senate cancels their scheduled holiday recess to deal with this issue and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid schedules the Senate to debate authorization of Libya? Are you friggin kidding me???

    I can’t believe these idiots. Standard & Poor is going to drop the U.S. credit rating of AAA to D if it defaults but Harry Reid is scheduling a debate on Libya instead of the debt limit crisis??? Are these morons intentionally trying to destroy America?

    The Libya issue is stupid. The President either broke the law a long time ago or he didn’t. It is preposterous of them to think a bill that gives him authorization now (after the fact) is more important than the debt limit crisis.

    I just can’t believe the insanity of these idiots.
    You know, I get so tired of hearing people complain about the President not taking a leadership role in these budget talks. It's not the President's job to do these things. That's Congress' responsibility. They're the ones who control the country's purse strings, i.e., appropriations.

    Again...process, ladies and gentlemen. Understand it and you'll understand why McConnell's "invite" was bogus.
    Last edited by Objective Voice; 07-02-11 at 12:43 PM.

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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I've already quoted exactly what Obama stated. Moving the goal posts by changing the qualifiers is intellectually dishonest. No one is claiming Obama promised to meet republicans whenever and wherever they demanded. That's called a "strawman".



    Strawman. I cited that Obama during the 2008 campaign, identified he would meet with foreign leaders connected even to terrorist organizations (Iran for example), without preconditions. I then stated he would not do the same thing with Congress.

    Try to keep up.
    Well I think that is because obama feels he has so much to learn from these dictators.... on how to rule over his unruley subjects ... Where as those in the house, dare to disagree with the messiah that he invisions himself to be.

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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    You can't negotiate unless you're at the table.
    The GOP had a place at the table - until Cantor and Kyle walked out on negotiations.

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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    The GOP had a place at the table - until Cantor and Kyle walked out on negotiations.
    Yep. And that's a tactic, just like Obama not agreeing to meet with McConnell... same thing.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I've already quoted exactly what Obama stated. Moving the goal posts by changing the qualifiers is intellectually dishonest. No one is claiming Obama promised to meet republicans whenever and wherever they demanded. That's called a "strawman".
    Translation: Obama never said he would meet with republicans. He said he would meet with Iran. Claiming that Obama said something he did not in fact say is dishonest,


    Strawman. I cited that Obama during the 2008 campaign, identified he would meet with foreign leaders connected even to terrorist organizations (Iran for example), without preconditions. I then stated he would not do the same thing with Congress.
    Translation: Obama never said he would meet with republicans.

    Also, the proposewd meeting did have a precondition....McConnell publically stated that the purpose of the meeting was to tell Obama why the repubs would not vote for tax increases. That is not a negotitation.

    Try to keep up

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