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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    OH...you mean like he did on Health Care?


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    Good post, but I have to add that Obama is fool for playing the republicans game. If he wasn't such coward, he woujld demand an up and down vote on raising the ceiling, with no conditions.
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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

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    OH...you mean like he did on Health Care?
    I don't understand the point you're trying to make. COuld you explain?
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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Why didn't Bammy and his minions want an up or down on Health Care?

    They didn't.....so instead they snuck it through "procedurally"......they were worried about their OWN would vote on it.




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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Amazed View Post
    Why didn't Bammy and his minions want an up or down on Health Care?

    They didn't.....so instead they snuck it through "procedurally"......they were worried about their OWN would vote on it.
    I still don't understand. Congress always pass bills "procedurally" (there's a process, and the law requires they follow it). I'm not trying to snarky or semantic, but I don't understand what 'snuck it through "procedurally"' refers to.
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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    My mistake, I was thinking of Pelosi's "Deem and Pass" strategy.


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    I still don't understand. Congress always pass bills "procedurally" (there's a process, and the law requires they follow it). I'm not trying to snarky or semantic, but I don't understand what 'snuck it through "procedurally"' refers to.
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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I still don't understand. Congress always pass bills "procedurally" (there's a process, and the law requires they follow it). I'm not trying to snarky or semantic, but I don't understand what 'snuck it through "procedurally"' refers to.
    Remember when Massachusetts Senator Scott Brown was elected to the Late Ted Kennedy seat? That changed the balance of power in the Senate and Democrats no longer had a filibuster proof majority.

    The Constitution requires that any changes made to a bill by either house require a new vote and passage by the other house. Democrats sidestepped this requirement using a procedure known as “Deem and Pass” where they didn’t vote on the revised bill, they just deemed that it was passed.

    "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought."
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    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Amazed View Post
    My mistake, I was thinking of Pelosi's "Deem and Pass" strategy.
    Ahhh! Now I see

    FYI, I don't think the "up and down vote" argument holds much water as a concept. However, since republicans have made the argument in the past, I think it would be a smart political move for Obama to turn it around against them
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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    Remember when Massachusetts Senator Scott Brown was elected to the Late Ted Kennedy seat? That changed the balance of power in the Senate and Democrats no longer had a filibuster proof majority.

    The Constitution requires that any changes made to a bill by either house require a new vote and passage by the other house. Democrats sidestepped this requirement using a procedure known as “Deem and Pass” where they didn’t vote on the revised bill, they just deemed that it was passed.
    Thanks for the explanation, but that makes the HCR bill a different issue, doesn't it? Deem and pass has nothing to do with raising the debt ceiling, right?

    Or am I missing something?
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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Thanks for the explanation, but that makes the HCR bill a different issue, doesn't it? Deem and pass has nothing to do with raising the debt ceiling, right?

    Or am I missing something?
    I was only trying to clarify what Amazed was referring to. I don't think it is the same thing but I did start another breaking news thread that is related to such procedural shenanigans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    I was only trying to clarify what Amazed was referring to. I don't think it is the same thing but I did start another breaking news thread that is related to such procedural shenanigans.
    Thanks, and for the record, I think the "up and down vote" argument is BS. I proposed it, not because it makes sense, but because it might work.
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