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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

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    I think they'd be more likely to go for something like a Cage Fighting to the Death for seniors. They can make money by selling the tv rights. The "Keep the govt hands off of my Medicare" crowd will eat it up,
    In wheelchairs? /scoff It will never happen. Besides, they'll have to be out-of-sight, so nobody will feel guilty for shipping them off to begin with.

    And of course it goes without saying that they can choose to be euthanized at any time of their choosing.

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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

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    I think you are missing the part where the Democrats are asking the Republicans to increase the debt ceiling. That’s what the Republicans are granting. If the Republicans say no, the Democrats will still need to cut spending.

    I don’t think there is a Democrat in congress who doesn’t think we need to cut spending if we are going to raise the debt ceiling so cutting spending is not a concession by the Democrats. They already say we need to do it. The battle is over what gets cut, how much and such, not whether there will be cuts.
    No ****?

    But there is no "compromise" if the Republicans raise the debt ceiling. In the past, they've known that you simply had to do it to protect the economy - only in the new Tea Party reality is it even a thought that perhaps we should just go ahead and destroy the markets by not paying our debts.

    Indeed, this is the first vote that Republicans have decided not to do it. Before that, they had the common sense to see that it was a necessity.

    Only in the whacktastic Tea Party-ruled land we exist in now is it not common sense.

    The only ones tying requirements to the debt ceiling vote are Republicans. And in doing so, they are holding our nation (and my retirement accounts) hostage.

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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

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    No ****?

    But there is no "compromise" if the Republicans raise the debt ceiling. In the past, they've known that you simply had to do it to protect the economy - only in the new Tea Party reality is it even a thought that perhaps we should just go ahead and destroy the markets by not paying our debts.

    Indeed, this is the first vote that Republicans have decided not to do it. Before that, they had the common sense to see that it was a necessity.

    Only in the whacktastic Tea Party-ruled land we exist in now is it not common sense.

    The only ones tying requirements to the debt ceiling vote are Republicans. And in doing so, they are holding our nation (and my retirement accounts) hostage.
    Good post, but I have to add that Obama is fool for playing the republicans game. If he wasn't such coward, he woujld demand an up and down vote on raising the ceiling, with no conditions.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    No ****?

    But there is no "compromise" if the Republicans raise the debt ceiling. In the past, they've known that you simply had to do it to protect the economy - only in the new Tea Party reality is it even a thought that perhaps we should just go ahead and destroy the markets by not paying our debts.

    Indeed, this is the first vote that Republicans have decided not to do it. Before that, they had the common sense to see that it was a necessity.

    Only in the whacktastic Tea Party-ruled land we exist in now is it not common sense.

    The only ones tying requirements to the debt ceiling vote are Republicans. And in doing so, they are holding our nation (and my retirement accounts) hostage.
    First, Republican have voted against raising the debt limit multiple just as the Democrats and Obama have so you should spend a little more time doing some fact checking before trotting out unfounded assumptions in the future.

    Second, this problem was created by Republicans and Democrats alike. Blaming the Tea Party has become a lazy out for those who wish to continue down this untenable road of American economic destruction. We cannot continue to just keep raising the debt ceiling. Every economist admits to this, even Geithner.

    The issue currently being fought is whether or not taxes should be increased and more government spending included in the raising of the debt ceiling. Adding government spending while trying to reduce government spending is prototypical Washington insanity.

    Increasing taxes as a part of the debt reduction at least has some plausibility, an in my mind will be required in the future, but is a terrible idea right now because the economy is too fragile and tax hikes will harm our meager economic recovery.

    As for who is tying requirements to the vote, both parties are. Hopefully you aren’t such a homer for one side or the other that you can’t see this obvious fact.

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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Good post, but I have to add that Obama is fool for playing the republicans game. If he wasn't such coward, he woujld demand an up and down vote on raising the ceiling, with no conditions.
    They already tried that and even the Democrats in Congress rejected it resoundingly.

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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Rightwing Logic:

    rightwingers criticizing rightwingers = leadership
    leftwingers criticizing leftwingers = not leadership

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    Still working on an example of Obama leadership? I know it was a tough homework assignment but I really expected a few more examples than have been provided.

    It isnít looking good for ďThe OneĒ, even among his supporters.

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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    Still working on an example of Obama leadership? I know it was a tough homework assignment but I really expected a few more examples than have been provided.

    It isn’t looking good for “The One”, even among his supporters.
    I know, I know

    It's only leadership when a republican does it
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post

    Second, this problem was created by Republicans and Democrats alike.
    Don't tell some people on this board. They think Republicans sat on the side while Democrats sat in the Senate chamber smoking cigars and trying to figure out how we could become part of China.


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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I know, I know

    It's only leadership when a republican does it
    Iím not a Republican. In fact, I have almost as much disdain for John Boehner as I do for Obama but this thread is about the President and the Senate, not crybaby Boehner so youíll have to wait to see me grill him.

    Did you give up on your search?

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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Don't tell some people on this board. They think Republicans sat on the side while Democrats sat in the Senate chamber smoking cigars and trying to figure out how we could become part of China.
    Yes and some people think the Republican President spent us into this by going to war but do their best to ignore the current administrations new and continued war’s. This is what is most wrong with America. Too many people refuse to think for themselves and rely on partisan talking points to dictate what they think and feel. See my signature.

    "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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