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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Not really, it is the job of Congress to pass a budget. The President would like to be involved, but at the end of the day, he doesn't have a lot of involvement. Plus, he's delegated this off to Biden.

    So if the Republicans really wanted to get it done, they could invite Pelosi and Biden. Pelosi, because she represents Dem leadership in Congress, and Biden because he's Obama's "guy" on this issue.

    It's a show. The President getting involved would largely be for show, and this invitation was a show. Obama doesn't come out smelling like roses in the show, but this wasn't going to be a substantive discussion.
    I have news for you, the President holds 1/3 of the votes required to pass the bill and even Biden has said it is time for the President to step in.

    Besides, Presidents who are real leaders don’t leave everything for everyone else to hash out for him an then he signs it into law, real leaders jump into the fray and get their hands dirty.

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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    I have no idea what the Democrats have agreed to cut. Do you?

    By the way, spending increases to reduce the debt? Are you serious?
    If they agreed to ANY cuts they have compromised more the the Republicans have.

    And frankly I don't know what increases are being proposed, so don't know if they would be considered "investment", or just flushing money down the toilet.

    But if they said something like we'll cut 5x here but we want to spend 1x here for y reason, that's still a cut of 4x, right?
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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    A fairly superficial article....
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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    McConnell has said his mission was the make Obama a one term President, I can't blame Obama at all.
    I see, you think the President should act childish and take his toys and go home because someone said something mean about him?

    You liberals really are deep arenít you?

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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    If they agreed to ANY cuts they have compromised more the the Republicans have.

    And frankly I don't know what increases are being proposed, so don't know if they would be considered "investment", or just flushing money down the toilet.

    But if they said something like we'll cut 5x here but we want to spend 1x here for y reason, that's still a cut of 4x, right?
    I think you are missing the part where the Democrats are asking the Republicans to increase the debt ceiling. That’s what the Republicans are granting. If the Republicans say no, the Democrats will still need to cut spending.

    I don’t think there is a Democrat in congress who doesn’t think we need to cut spending if we are going to raise the debt ceiling so cutting spending is not a concession by the Democrats. They already say we need to do it. The battle is over what gets cut, how much and such, not whether there will be cuts.

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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    A fairly superficial article....
    Not as superficial as Obama’s speech but it is in the same neighborhood IMHO.

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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    I see, you think the President should act childish and take his toys and go home because someone said something mean about him?

    You liberals really are deep arenít you?
    I think President Obama should stand his ground. I can only guess what you would do, if somebody you trying work with and that person said their mission was to get rid of you. You think he's being childish, I couldn't give a rip what you think.


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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    We want him to....2012 is tomorrow....and we are coming again, any questions?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I think President Obama should stand his ground. I can only guess what you would do, if somebody you trying work with and that person said their mission was to get rid of you. You think he's being childish, I couldn't give a rip what you think.
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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I think President Obama should stand his ground. I can only guess what you would do, if somebody you trying work with and that person said their mission was to get rid of you. You think he's being childish, I couldn't give a rip what you think.
    You don’t care what I think? My feelings are hurt.

    Here’s a reality check for you: You don’t become President of the United States if you get your feelings hurt because someone from the opposing party says that they plan to make you a one term President. You wouldn’t last a day in politics if that was how you think.

    This is an extremely simplistic argument but feel free to try and make your case for why a President shouldn’t work with anyone who wants someone else to be President.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
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    Re: McConnell invites Obama to GOP lunch; president says no, thanks

    Haven't we seen this Lucy and Charlie Brown with the football thing before? I mean HW Bush made his read my lips speech then demos offered to cut spending if he raised taxes. He did, demos lied and well we know the rest.


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