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    Re: California Screws the Pooch. Amazon cuts ties

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Do people purchasing online somehow use less government services than people buying in a brick and mortar store? Do they homeschool their kids, put out their own fires rather than calling the fire department, arrest their own prowlers? Remember, it is the buyer who lives in California paying the taxes, not the seller.
    If a person is buying in California, from a seller in California, that's fine to tax it.

    If it is a buyer in California, purchasing something from a seller in Nevada, there is no justification for the tax.
    California will need to get more competitive, if they want to keep business and taxes in state.

    Crime rates and house fires are down.
    They don't need the same level of tax money to sustain these public enterprises.
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    Re: California Screws the Pooch. Amazon cuts ties

    An aside:

    If a person is buying in California, from a seller in California, that's fine to tax it.

    If it is a buyer in California, purchasing something from a seller in Nevada, there is no justification for the tax.
    That sounds vaguely anti commerce clause. What do you say about the commerce clause? I've no intention of debating it and derailing, just wondering your stance on it.
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    Re: California Screws the Pooch. Amazon cuts ties

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    An aside:



    That sounds vaguely anti commerce clause. What do you say about the commerce clause? I've no intention of debating it and derailing, just wondering your stance on it.
    A state has no legal authority to issue a sales tax on something sold of state.
    Perfectly within the commerce clause.
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    Re: California Screws the Pooch. Amazon cuts ties

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    A state has no legal authority to issue a sales tax on something sold of state.
    Perfectly within the commerce clause.
    If the purchases is within California one could argue the good is sold within California
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    Re: California Screws the Pooch. Amazon cuts ties

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    If the purchases is within California one could argue the good is sold within California
    It isn't if the product is shipped from out of state.
    It's just like mail order catalogs, only faster.
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    Re: California Screws the Pooch. Amazon cuts ties

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
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    what of the person buying the good or service, the one who gets charged the sales tax? Amazon does not pay the sales tax, the consumer does, Amazon just collects it and remits it to the government. The consumer definately uses the roads and infrustructure that the taxes pay for.
    I never said Amazon paid the taxes. How ever as a consumer if I buy on-line and go to the check out and see tax even though the retailer is out of state, I hit the back button and look elsewhere. I'm not paying shipping AND tax too. It depends on which is more. If the state of California wants to kill the eTailers in this state, let'em. They'll end up with LESS tax dollars in their income tax coffers.

    As I said before, if they demand sales tax on everything, I'll move my transaction server and bank account to a state that doesn't, all easily done on line. A forwarding P.O. Box and a business license in that state for an on line biz. The pay myself as the drop shipper in California.
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    Re: California Screws the Pooch. Amazon cuts ties

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    If the purchases is within California one could argue the good is sold within California
    I already pay the BOE for sales tax collected for instate purchases.
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    Re: California Screws the Pooch. Amazon cuts ties

    How much of what we buy actually originates in the state where it is sold?
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    Re: Amazon to California: Read My Lips, No Online Sales Tax(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I love this one. Stick it to California and any other state that tries this:

    Read more: Amazon to California: Read My Lips, No Online Sales Tax - FoxNews.com
    Why shouldn't there be state sales tax on sales made w/i a state? Everything sold to a consumer should be taxed -- otherwise the sales tax system is unfair. With the internet making across-state-lines shopping a piece of cake, it's just a matter of time until states catch up and all internet purchases will be taxed. Bully Amazon should just bite the bullet with the rest of the online shopping services. They don't deserve some special exemption. Big babies.
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    Re: Amazon to California: Read My Lips, No Online Sales Tax(edited)

    The absurd idea is that collecting sales taxes on online purchases from out of state is going to encourage retailers to go out of state. Huh? Wouldn't collecting taxes on local purchases, but not on out of state purchases encourage retailers to move out of state?
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