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Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

You only get to help elect the board if you live in the district where you teach, which not all teachers do. Also, you get one vote, that is certainly no guarantee that you get the best school board. I don't know what you mean by honest. Do you think that teachers shouldn't be able to vote for school board members? I'd actually trust the teachers' judgement on what is best for the school.

Actually I was speaking about the demo politicians that the liberal NEA pumps with money to their campaigns, and then leans on them while in office for the quid pro quo. So what do I mean by "honest" well we can start with not distorting my words.

j-mac
 
With the added benefit of getting to elect their own boss, whom they will negotiate their pay with....hmmmm...Not a real good roadmap for remaining honest now is it?

j-mac

Elect their own boss!?!?!?!?!?!?

What is it that you are talking about?

I taught in the public school system for over 33 years and never on a single occasion did I get to elect my boss. Not once.
 
Elect their own boss!?!?!?!?!?!?

What is it that you are talking about?

I taught in the public school system for over 33 years and never on a single occasion did I get to elect my boss. Not once.

You don't vote? I already clarified, maybe read down before frothing next time.

j-mac
 
You don't vote? I already clarified, maybe read down before frothing next time.

j-mac

If what you wrote in post #126 is your idea of backing up your claim, you have miles and miles to go before you even come close to proving your allegations. Not only can you not connect the dots, your dots are on different pages, in different books really.
 
If what you wrote in post #126 is your idea of backing up your claim, you have miles and miles to go before you even come close to proving your allegations. Not only can you not connect the dots, your dots are on different pages, in different books really.

That might really hurt, if I thought your opinion of me mattered on little bit....

j-mac
 
Actually I was speaking about the demo politicians that the liberal NEA pumps with money to their campaigns, and then leans on them while in office for the quid pro quo. So what do I mean by "honest" well we can start with not distorting my words.

j-mac

It wasn't a distortion, it was a misunderstanding.

Still, teachers get one vote so I don't see where you have a complaint there. I would still trust teachers to vote for the person that had the best ideas about education.
As I've stated earlier, not all teachers are in unions. That being said, what is not honest about voting for those who share your ideals? Do teachers not have the right to do that?
 
That might really hurt, if I thought your opinion of me mattered on little bit....

j-mac

Hurt you?!?!?!? I have no idea what you are talking about.

All I want you to do is to back up with evidence that I as a public school teacher voted for my boss and thus I could

and then leans on them while in office for the quid pro quo.

Because in over 33 years that never happened once. So like Denzel Washington said in PHILADELPHIA - explain this to me like I am a four year old.
 
You don't vote? I already clarified, maybe read down before frothing next time.

j-mac

You said elect. How do you elect someone without voting?
 
Wow! :shock: Is this how you tend to address anyone whom may have serious disagreements with you? Name call, and pettiness first? It is certainly acceptable to argue that Obama is not a hardcore Marxist, but that doesn't by any means rule out that a heavy portion of his ideological stance relies heavily on tenants of Marx, if not outright Communism. Obama uses buzz wording like 'Social Justice', and 'Collective Salvation' sprinkled in with a host of speeches I believe designed to lull the listener to sleep while his chin is still jutted outward in Moussalli fashion. Deny it as you so arrogantly, and obviously will, but the people see, and are not sleeping any longer.

J, we're talking about someone who uses the word Marxist. Seriously, this is not valid or honest discourse. And it is dishonest no matter who uses it.

The dishonest part is that where you want the American people to believe once again that you will actually do both as you say. The track record on this shows a different story, and you my misguided friend are arguing to leave the drug addict in charge of the Pharmacy.

J, if you believe both are required you argue for both. Has nothing to do with belief.


Beautiful, you end it just as you started with insult, and arrogance. You need to understand that significance, and seriousness are not trademarks of the liberal alone. People can disagree with you, and that doesn't make them any less serious, nor significant in their argument. So how's about you drop the BS eh?

j-mac

J, you can't be serious or siginificant if you use terms like Marxist and communism. There is no way around that. It is unoriginal and silly to go down that old worn down path. Sorry.
 
How about we the people force you to do with less, and you do what you are paid to do?

j-mac

Missed this earlier. You make a lot of leaps here. How much do you actually know about the job?
 
(CNN) -- In a budget-cutting move likely to be echoed around the country, Milwaukee Public Schools said Wednesday it will lay off 519 staff members -- including 354 teachers -- because of $84 million in state cuts and the system's efforts to control costs.

Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers - CNN.com


Cuts have consequences.
Didn't the Wisconsin governor bust up unions to prevent thse types of cuts?
 
As for education, simply cutting funds, with no plan, is not really better than simply spending money with no plan.

No one of any siginficance (sic) or seriousness is threatening what you claim.

LOL!

no one is cutting without a plan

not rahm, not cuomo, not brown...

think much?
 
LOL!

no one is cutting without a plan

not rahm, not cuomo, not brown...

think much?

Yeah, what you post doesn't address everything, specifically not about teachers versus administrators, to which there seems to be no plan. So, no, you have not disputed me on this.
 
If working people agree to perform the same jobs for 20% less it means a drastic lowering of the standard of living for scores of millions of Americans.

tell it to cuomo, brown, emanuel, malloy, omalley, quinn, the massachusetts house, the springfield assembly, the dem appointed city managers in detroit...
 
tell it to cuomo, brown, emanuel, malloy, omalley, quinn, the massachusetts house, the springfield assembly, the dem appointed city managers in detroit...

This common nonsensical response of yours doesn't answer anything. It's OK to admit your failings in understanding or ability to reply coherently. :coffeepap
 
no plan---LOL!

a half million dollar deficit becomes in a year a 1.5 million dollar surplus

thru pension reform, opening up health care to bidding, cutting prep time...

it's all so random

LOL!
 
no plan---LOL!

a half million dollar deficit becomes in a year a 1.5 million dollar surplus

thru pension reform, opening up health care to bidding, cutting prep time...

it's all so random

LOL!

Which has nothing to do with teachers and class size. Again, you either miss the point of the discussion or you're too busy being silly to pay attention. I don't know which. But, again I may have to just move on to someone willing to actually participate. :2wave:
 
reducing prep and increasing work week has nothing to do with teachers and class size?

LOL!

is that what it says in the SYDNEY MORNING HERALD?
 
reducing prep and increasing work week has nothing to do with teachers and class size?

LOL!

is that what it says in the SYDNEY MORNING HERALD?

Overall, how do reduce class size by cutting teachers? Explain.
 
ability to reply coherently

says the guy who's had to took a second job

LOL!

who opposes throwing money continuely, even if it's prominate dems

who refuses to kneel at the alter of sterotypes

you get the herald in detroit?
 
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