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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

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    obama's a loser

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    Yep, and still a better alternative than anyone the GOP has dug up. Who is the GOP candidate proposing less military spending and more education funding than Obama?
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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

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    Who is the GOP candidate proposing less military spending and more education funding than Obama?
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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

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    That's what I thought, you can come up with no one, which is why we will reelect Obama!
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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Yep, and still a better alternative than anyone the GOP has dug up. Who is the GOP candidate proposing less military spending and more education funding than Obama?
    Well, first off Cat, I would say to you that liberals such as yourself don't chose our candidates, and they certainly shouldn't adhere to some fictitious litmus test that you put up, with goals only important to you, and your agenda. That is laughably ridiculous...

    Even the prominent liberal blogger for the Gaurdian news paper in the UK writes this about one candidate that so far isn't in yet, but many hope he enters...

    Having Texas as a political base gives him some huge advantages. One is the fundraising potential, gifting Perry a goldmine that the likes of Mitt Romney or Michele Bachmann can't enter. The other is the cluster of political support that Perry has built up, giving him a deep pool of staff, backers and volunteers. And Texas boasts 149 delegates to the Republican convention, the most of any state other than California. (New Hampshire, in contrast, has just 20.)

    Perry's record as governor of Texas might not delight Democrats but he's a hero in Republican circles for his rock-ribbed conservatism and gun-toting populism. That makes him the only candidate able to span the Tea Party and more mainstream Republican wings of the party, on both social and economic issues. And the private sector job creation that Texas can boast under Perry's leadership gives him an enviable record that his primary rivals (and Obama) will find difficult to rebut.

    Added to all that is the fact that Perry has won three gubernatorial elections after bitterly contested Republican primaries in Texas. So he knows how to win an intra-party struggle in a big state something that can't be said for the likes of Romney. His demolition of US Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison in the 2010 Republican primary was a case in point, a brilliant if bare-knuckle campaign.

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    No wonder that NObama is scared enough to begin his fundraising, and indeed his campaign so early, and so prominently. He is scared, and should be. Perry would trounce him soundly in a general election, and for this nations sake, I hope he does.

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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, first off Cat, I would say to you that liberals such as yourself don't chose our candidates, and they certainly shouldn't adhere to some fictitious litmus test that you put up, with goals only important to you, and your agenda. That is laughably ridiculous...

    Even the prominent liberal blogger for the Gaurdian news paper in the UK writes this about one candidate that so far isn't in yet, but many hope he enters...



    No wonder that NObama is scared enough to begin his fundraising, and indeed his campaign so early, and so prominently. He is scared, and should be. Perry would trounce him soundly in a general election, and for this nations sake, I hope he does.

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    When I said, we will reelect Obama, I mean the country will, not liberals. You are correct that liberals do not choose our candidates, neither does the far-right. If we did we would not have the moderate Obama as president, we would have a liberal as president now.

    It is the moderates predominately, and the left or right just tend to tip it in one direction or another. That is why we have moderates as President time after time, like both our candidates in 2008, and will again next year with Romney vs Obama. Moderates are not going for your far-right (secede from the Union) Perry, which is why he has had the good sense not even to enter the race.
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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    When I said, we will reelect Obama, I mean the country will, not liberals. You are correct that liberals do not choose our candidates, neither does the far-right. If we did we would not have the moderate Obama as president, we would have a liberal as president now.

    It is the moderates predominately, and the left or right just tend to tip it in one direction or another. That is why we have moderates as President time after time, like both our candidates in 2008, and will again next year with Romney vs Obama. Moderates are not going for your far-right (secede from the Union) Perry, which is why he has had the good sense not even to enter the race.
    Yep, keep thinking that pablum please.

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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Students protected from cuts

    The Appleton School District just saved more than $3 million on its health insurance plan simply by going out to bid for the first time in six years, according to the Appleton Post Crescent. And without a doubt, it was Gov. Scott Walker’s collective bargaining changes and state budget cuts that prompted the savings.
    Another Wisconsin school district with large savings due to taking advantage of the changes offered in Act 10. If only Milwaukee school districts had not rushed through their contract, think how much money and teacher's jobs they could have saved.

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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

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    Students protected from cuts



    Another Wisconsin school district with large savings due to taking advantage of the changes offered in Act 10. If only Milwaukee school districts had not rushed through their contract, think how much money and teacher's jobs they could have saved.
    Curious. This is an editoral, so it doesn't mean the facts are correct. But assuming they are, does success in one place equal overall success?

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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Curious. This is an editoral, so it doesn't mean the facts are correct. But assuming they are, does success in one place equal overall success?
    A better question, Does failure in one place mean overall failure?

    I think it's fairly obvious that it would be easy for MPS to save similar money if they had not rushed through the union contract - by swithing from WEA insurance and requiring teachers contributions to health insurance premium and pensions. We know that if the unions just agreed to one of those three (contributions to pensions) over 200 teaching jobs would be saved in MPS.

    Walker gave the districts the tools to handle the budget cuts. Those places that are using the tools are saving boat loads of money and keeping class sizes the same or decreasing them. Those places that decided they wanted to protect the unions are suffering the consequences of those decisions. Short term it will be painful for them. Long term it will be good for them.

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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    does success in one place equal overall success?
    you're talking about freeing up school districts for the first time in years to go shopping around for coverage, thus allowing the collective school system to SAVE three million dollars?

    ie, you have to ask?

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