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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Walker cut the districts budgets, but gave the districts all the necessary tools to save money and not have any ill effects. Unfortunately, MPS and the union has decided they didn't want to use those tools. Instead jumping to layoffs, that shouldn't have been necessary and trying to blame Walker.

    The districts that are using those tools are not having to make cuts and some are actually hiring additional teachers and decreasing class sizes.

    You are probably right, the unions and MPS are just playing to certain people.

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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    However, cutting just to eb (sic) cutting
    LOL!

    you think cuomo and rahm and malloy, et al, are cutting just to cut?

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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    The Kaukauna School District, in the Fox River Valley of Wisconsin near Appleton, has about 4,200 students and about 400 employees. It has struggled in recent times and this year faced a deficit of $400,000. But after the law went into effect, at 12:01 a.m. Wednesday, school officials put in place new policies they estimate will turn that $400,000 deficit into a $1.5 million surplus. And it's all because of the very provisions that union leaders predicted would be disastrous.

    In the past, teachers and other staff at Kaukauna were required to pay 10 percent of the cost of their health insurance coverage and none of their pension costs. Now, they'll pay 12.6 percent of the cost of their coverage (still well below rates in much of the private sector) and also contribute 5.8 percent of salary to their pensions. The changes will save the school board an estimated $1.2 million this year, according to board President Todd Arnoldussen.

    Of course, Wisconsin unions had offered to make benefit concessions during the budget fight. Wouldn't Kaukauna's money problems have been solved if Walker had just accepted those concessions and not demanded cutbacks in collective bargaining powers?

    "The monetary part of it is not the entire issue," says Arnoldussen, a political independent who won a spot on the board in a nonpartisan election. Indeed, some of the most important improvements in Kaukauna's outlook are because of the new limits on collective bargaining.

    In the past, Kaukauna's agreement with the teachers union required the school district to purchase health insurance coverage from something called WEA Trust -- a company created by the Wisconsin teachers union. "It was in the collective bargaining agreement that we could only negotiate with them," says Arnoldussen. This year, WEA Trust told Kaukauna that it would face a significant increase in premiums.

    Now, the collective bargaining agreement is gone, and the school district is free to shop around for coverage. And all of a sudden, WEA Trust has changed its position. "With these changes, the schools could go out for bids, and lo and behold, WEA Trust said, 'We can match the lowest bid,'" says Republican state Rep. Jim Steineke, who represents the area and supports the Walker changes. At least for the moment, Kaukauna is staying with WEA Trust, but saving substantial amounts of money.

    Then there are work rules. "In the collective bargaining agreement, high school teachers only had to teach five periods a day, out of seven," says Arnoldussen. "Now, they're going to teach six." In addition, the collective bargaining agreement specified that teachers had to be in the school 37 1/2 hours a week. Now, it will be 40 hours.

    The changes mean Kaukauna can reduce the size of its classes -- from 31 students to 26 students in high school and from 26 students to 23 students in elementary school. In addition, there will be more teacher time for one-on-one sessions with troubled students. Those changes would not have been possible without the much-maligned changes in collective bargaining.
    Union curbs rescue a Wisconsin school district | Byron York | Politics | Washington Examiner

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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    (CNN) -- In a budget-cutting move likely to be echoed around the country, Milwaukee Public Schools said Wednesday it will lay off 519 staff members -- including 354 teachers -- because of $84 million in state cuts and the system's efforts to control costs.

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    Cuts have consequences.
    Hmm, they must not be as good at that budget stuff as this district is.

    Take particular note of the heath care aspect.

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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You invest in what you care about. I am not suggesting we shouldn't be concerned about the budget, but if you care about education, you do something more targetted, more aimed at the problem, and not the things that will effect children and education the most. Again, it is about what do you care about.
    I get so sick of hearing this sheeezz . you do realize that we spend more per student then any country in the world don't you ? We should have the best educated students shouldn't we ? Why don't we if it's just a matter of money ??

    I just fail to understand liberals who's ideas are always the same .. just throw more money at a problem, thats always their first fix, don't they realize (obviously they don't) that this is one of the causes of our spending woes in both state and federal government?

    Sometimes it's best to take a step back .. and find out what the problems facing us are .. then find the best ways of fixing them . Just spending (or as you like to use investing) in our education system hasn't helped the students yet as a liberal your first response is to spend more .. I happen to agree with tessaesque on looking first to what can be cut that won't in any way hurt the education of the student, make those cuts first then see what if anything is still needed. This laying off of teachers is nothing more than a vialed attempt to vilify Walker, and has nothing to do with budget cuts or concern for the students.

    Both sides need to get off their collective bottoms and find solutions solutions that work for the good of whatever we are trying to accomplish, for years and years our answers have been just keep spending it has to get better . well .. it hasn't and our spending has caught up with us.

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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    It will be interesting to see the reverberations graph here in graduation rates, SAT scores, etc.

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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    AZ had major budget cuts to education. Does our Gov hate education? Of course not. In my city, Tucson, several schools were shut down. Were the kids thrown to the wolves to raise? Of course not. Schools were merged, everything is fine for the little ones. People lost their jobs. Terrible for them, but that is where we are at right now. The kids are fine, and if they start to hurt some new tax will be proposed, said it is for kids and police and fire........ like they always do, and the kids will be fine...

    The kids are fine.. just like cuts in welfare, medicaid, whatever-- the cuts can easily be made without hurting the recipients of the programs. Gov't screams bloody murder when anything is shrunk. Stinks for them if their lives are disrupted, but it is a bald faced lie that people are going to die, or be uneducated, whatever, because they lose their jobs. People will be cared for, waste and duplication will be eliminated. Just the way it is, and we should all hope it does not get worse than this.
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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    We should never be making cuts to education unless there is proven wast in some area of the education budget. Cuts do have to be made, but it's where they are made that is important.
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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Our kids have already had the horrible cuts. When was the last time kids could get art, music, PE, FREE?? Not for a long time. Streamlining the schools will not hurt any worse, not in MY state. Want to help education in AZ?? Get rid of the illegals and their ESL kids. THAT is where our money goes. Get rid of free breakfast and lunch for kids already on food stamps-- make their parents feed them, which we pay them to do-- with food stamps. And can the free after school programs, too. Let their parents take care of them, like the rest of us not on welfare do. Deal with it. No more free stuff.
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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    I think cutting teacher at this rate will mean that our children will be less well educated than ourselves. This is just crazy notion. We are sacrificing our future for some immediate gain. very unfortunate decisions.

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