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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
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    but cuomo just answered you

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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    What I see quite clearly is your blind and pathetic partisan wrangling in insisting that all problems must be caused by evil republicans. So...tell me chief...what have the democrats done to fix the problems?
    The Conservative Democrats have been part of the problem, no doubt about it. When they side with the Republicans against the country's best long term interest, they are just as guilty as the GOP. While the Democrats haven't cleaned up all the mess left by the last administration, they have made more progress than I thought was possible given the obstacle of the conservatives in both parties.

    They prevented the US from slipping into another great depression, they passed legislation that has done more to lessen our dependence on foreign oil and decrease CO2 production than the last several administrations, they passed the first step in Health Care Reform, they eliminated the terrorist Bin Laden and are winding down the US wars in Afghanistan and Iraq started by the last administration, they have provided more funding for alternative energy including nuclear than any president in history, and they provided more funding for infrastructure repair than the last several administrations, and they provided better funding for the veterans upon their return from service.

    All of this they accomplished despite opposition from the conservatives of both parties. A hell of a feat!
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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    The only thing that will hurt the Children is more Liberal Union Teachers.

    Unions are killing Education and the Economies in State after State.

    Unions have out lived there usefulness and need to be band, because they use threats, coercion, and when that doesn't work, they call out the thugs.
    What kill education is not the existence of Unions. It a combination of broken families, broken communities, apathy, poor teach practices, and mismanaged budgets with excesses in both administrative cost and, in some cases, non-salary benefits. Case in point, the supposed savior of education, the self managed school (charters), has about the same failure rate as the publicly managed school when everything else is equal.
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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The Conservative Democrats have been part of the problem, no doubt about it. When they side with the Republicans against the countries best long term interest, they are just as guilty. While the Democrats haven't cleaned up all the mess left by the last administration, they have made more progress than I thought was possible given the obstacle of the conservatives in both parties.

    They prevented the US from slipping into another great depression, they passed legislation that has done more to lessen our dependence on foreign oil and decrease CO2 production than the last several administrations, they passed the first step in Health Care Reform, they eliminated the terrorist Bin Laden and are winding down the US wars in Afghanistan and Iraq started by the last administration, they have provided more funding for alternative energy including nuclear than any president in history, and they provided more funding for infrastructure repair than the last several administrations, and they provided better funding for the veterans upon their return from service.

    All of this they accomplished despite opposition from the conservatives of both parties. A hell of a feat!
    Right...so...another one of 'those guys'. Only liberalism and continuing to spend trillions and trillions of money we dont have can 'save' us.

    Good lord...its like a parody of a really really over the top slant on liberals come to life...

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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    but cuomo just answered you

    in expansive eloquence
    And how does that change the fact that the purposed fixes to education aren't tackling the root problems of failure and expense listed above and earlier in this thread?
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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    What kill education is not the existence of Unions. It a combination of broken families, broken communities, apathy, poor teach practices, and mismanaged budgets with excesses in both administrative cost and, in some cases, non-salary benefits. Case in point, the supposed savior of education, the self managed school (charters), has about the same failure rate as the publicly managed school when everything else is equal.
    Except the private schools generally pay their teachers better than public schools, ain't that a kicker!
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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Right...so...another one of 'those guys'. Only liberalism and continuing to spend trillions and trillions of money we dont have can 'save' us.
    Decided to start making **** up huh? We need to cut spending AND we need to discontinue our practice of the last 30 years of giving away tax breaks to the wealthy so they can invest it in other countries.

    We can't be in very much financial trouble if we are still giving away tax breaks just for being rich now can we?
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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Decided to start making **** up huh? We need to cut spending AND we need to discontinue our practice of the last 30 years of giving away tax breaks to the wealthy so they can invest it in other countries.

    We can't be in very much financial trouble if we are still giving away tax breaks just for being rich now can we?
    Baby...its 2011. In 2007 dems owned the world and couldnt so much as pass an operating budget. They added 5 trillion to an already disgusting 9 trillion dollar debt. If liberal democrats are the solution, just give us all cancer. Both sides have screwed the country over...somebody better start setting it right. Liberal democrats did such a ****ed up job in just 2 years they got tossed on their corrupt asses.

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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Baby...its 2011. In 2007 dems owned the world and couldnt so much as pass an operating budget. They added 5 trillion to an already disgusting 9 trillion dollar debt. If liberal democrats are the solution, just give us all cancer. Both sides have screwed the country over...somebody better start setting it right. Liberal democrats did such a ****ed up job in just 2 years they got tossed on their corrupt asses.
    The problem was that democrates aren't a unified party like the repubs are. They have DINOs in our party just like you have RINOS, the key differece is the Dem's whip isn't as good and until the filibuster majority was actually lost, the dems had more DINOs than the repubs had RINOs.
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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Except the private schools generally pay their teachers better than public schools
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