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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I personally prefer Detroit's choice over Milwaukee's.
    LOL!

    you prefer BOBB?

    in april mr bobb sent layoff notices to EVERY teacher in detroit, all five thousand four hundred and sixty six of em

    bobb "voids union contracts," "sidelines elected board members," "closes schools..."

    he makes "unilateral changes to collective bargaining"

    up to 1/3 of detroit's public schools mr bobb will either CLOSE or "turn over to private charter operators"

    why, mr bobb is the very face of michigan's fiscal MARTIAL LAW

    ask ms maddow

    look to detroit for a plan that's not ad hoc...

    LOL!

    what an idiot

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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    (CNN) -- In a budget-cutting move likely to be echoed around the country, Milwaukee Public Schools said Wednesday it will lay off 519 staff members -- including 354 teachers -- because of $84 million in state cuts and the system's efforts to control costs.

    Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers - CNN.com


    Cuts have consequences.
    From what I'm hearing from the GOP these days, education is way over rated. Of what benefit is having smart children? How could that possibly help us in the future?
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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    From what I'm hearing from the GOP these days, education is way over rated. Of what benefit is having smart children? How could that possibly help us in the future?
    really ?? I've heard of no such things .. do you have links to back up your nonsense .. or are you just giving us more of your dribble ?
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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Of what benefit is having smart children? How could that possibly help us in the future?
    they could help balance our budget when they reach their maturity

    they could insist that the teachers of their time contribute to their pensions and health insurance sufficient to protect the solvencies of their states' entire budgets and stop burdening their posterities with impossible promises which can never be kept

    because our states, unless something is done now to restructure their obligations, are simply not going to be able to sustain perks like pensions and health care for the next generation

    just like our big 3 federal social programs---if something isn't done imminently to fundamentally reform our budgets, then social security and medicare and medicaid will simply cease to exist, as we now know them, for our kids

    cutting just to cut, anyone?

    all ad hoc?

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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    really ?? I've heard of no such things .. do you have links to back up your nonsense .. or are you just giving us more of your dribble ?
    Did you miss the OP??? Are under the impression that a higher student to teacher ratio improves education?
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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    In what way Boo?
    I don't know anyone of siginificance who believes and "behave as if all property belongs to the state and the rich should not be allowed to keep so much of their property." We have aprogressive tax system, no more and no less, and there has only been suggestions of a small percentage increase, nothing more.

    What part do you think I have wrong? Do you disagree that the central organizing principal of Marxism is in fact, centrally organizing society? Isn't the point to increase the size of government, to have a dictatorship of the proletariat to lead the unwashed masses to their utopia?
    If you can't read that nonsense and see the problem, i'm not sure anyonhe can reach you. Nothing going on today equal marxist or Socialism or cCommunism. It is pure silliness to use that tired old unoriginal nonsense. It's bad to spew nonsense, but to be unoriginal to boot?



    So is your plan to take wealth from them without depriving the of it? That is one fine trick. How do you propose to take that wealth which someone has created without actually taking it? If they are not deprived of that which is taken from them then what word or phrase should we use to describe it?
    No, tax increases and spending cuts. Not depriving anyone of anything. your leaping over the edge.

    You have provided one solution, your solution, without first defining what the problem is. If the problem is spending 5 billion dollars more than the state has another way to view the problem is that the state is spending too much. It must cut its spending to match or be lower than the revenue it expects to collect. If the desire is to increase the revenues to the state then another option is to review the myriad rules and regulations that hamper business. By making business easier to conduct the economic activity will increase withing the state thus increasing revenues collected.
    That's only part of the problem. The state still ahs obligations, we the people have obligations. We have public schools and must have a proper plan to effectively educate our children. You want to spend wisely? So do I. But as I keep saying just cutting to cut is not better than just spending to spend.

    It lacks practicality to the degree that the problem itself was not identified and agreed upon before moving to one of many possible solutions. It is Marxist or socialist or statist because your preferred solution, perhaps you only solution is always the same. Tax the rich and spend, spend spend on more government.
    Do you even read what I type? Shoudl I type slower? I said CUT SPENDING and raise taxes. Read it slowly.


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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Did you miss the OP??? Are under the impression that a higher student to teacher ratio improves education?
    To be fair, student to teacher ratio is a poor predictor of educational success.

    For instance, Utah has the highest student-to-teacher ration but has above average SAT scores.

    While Maine, the lowest, scores among the bottom.

    That's not to say it isn't a useful component in judging future educational success, but it is definitely a smaller part. It should not be considered some sort of 'Holy Grail' that we must make payroll decisions around.

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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Nonsense. I have voted local tickets for some thirty years now, and never once have I seen any initiative on any ballot that reads in terms of bloating the administration of a school system with $100K plus a year jobs, and golden parachute retirements.

    These positions are ones created for teachers that move up the ranks toward retirement by connected union hacks that are draining our municipalities.

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    You and I aren't talking about the same thing. I'm talking about removing entire school districts because they in and of themselves are overlap and therefore useless and inefficient. The school districts themselves are established by law, the pay is negotiated. You can argue that the pay needs to be adjusted, but that doesn't tackle the root issue witch is redundancy.

    Why should that district even exist? 4200 student for 1 district? That number should be around 10-11k. These redundancies that are making education budgets bloated.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    So in your opinion . When spending cuts are involved .. it's a bad plan to allow the districts … to decide how they should handle those cuts .. Who would know better the needs .. of a particular school .. that district .. or the government that could be located 100s of miles away ???
    As I said, the problem is that some school districts have less than 2000 students. In IN, there are school districts that have less than 1k students. This leads to having more superindents and other admin redundancies which eats up most the money spent on education over all.
    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Have you ever read the Communist Manefesto? Me thinks not, otherwise you'd never make these foolish statements.

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    Reading and understanding are two different things. I think you read it and misunderstood it. Have you read Das Capital? Anyways, it doesn't matter because Obama is anything but a socialist. Hes a corporatist, much like Bush W with a different stripe.



    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Heck, why not just graduate these kids at the 8th grade, and do away with high school all together....Everyone knows that this is what collages are for....heh, heh....

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    I personally believe that highschool should only be 2 years of school, and 2 years of extra help for those who need it, and community service and other programs for those that don't. Going to school for 16years before starting life has caused a lot of problems in the country, one is debt the other is the immaturity of my generation.
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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    you want to leave the CUTS up to the cuomos and moonbeams of this milieu?

    LOL!

    you don't know what you're arguing about

    at the DISTRICT level wisconsin is witnessing MIRACLES:



    link above
    MPS was trying to get the unions to agree to pension contributions from their members. This alone, not even asking for health insurance contributions or a change from WEA to a private insurance) would save over 200 teacher jobs. Add in the contributions to health insurance premium and a change from WEA, and I would bet they wouldn't have to lay any teachers off.

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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Good opportunity to cull out the bad teachers.

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