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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by DemonMyst View Post
    I hope it is your children that no longer get an education.. Grats on advocating children and our nations future to pay for republican mismanagement..
    That's quite a dramatic statement...and really it only addresses part of the issue (defunding). Why don't we confront the other portions: mismanagement of education funds, poor performance from educators, revisionist history/social studies/science texts (modified for both ideologies at various points in time), administrative bloat, solutions that haven't solved problems, etc.

    We can lament lost money all day, but the money is still gone. Why don't we hold districts accountable and demand that they use X% or X-amount of funding specifically for education of the pupil (textbooks, supplies, teacher salaries, field trips, etc)? Why don't we hold them accountable and demand that they provided a balanced presentation of information in hotly contested subjects? Why don't we demand new solutions to the poverty deficit (one that hasn't changed much since the "war on poverty" began)?

    Nah...let's just sit and point fingers and whine. That will help.
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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by DemonMyst View Post
    I hope it is your children that no longer get an education.. Grats on advocating children and our nations future to pay for republican mismanagement..
    Well, first, the mismanagmeent in WI occured under Doyle, a democrat. Walker and the republicans had to come in and bring the house back in order.

    Second, the MPS administrators have tried to get concessions from the unions, in which their members contribute 5.8% to their pensions (You know that thing all the unions claimed they agreed to?). If the union agreed, it would save over 200 teacher's jobs. What do you think the union's response was? No way! In other words, so much for putting the children first.

    Third, why do you think the MPS system rushed through a contract agreement instead of waiting for Walker's budget repair bill, which would have allowed MPS to save many millions of dollars and avoided all teacher cuts?

    Lastly, other schools in WI are seeing the opposite, since they waited for the budget repair bill to go through prior to agreeeing with the unions. For example, Kauakauna schools went from a 400K deficit to a 1.5 million dollar surplus due to the changes provided in the bill.
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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    from rahm to cuomo, all the blues are trying to out-reagan reagan

    a genuine air traffic controllers moment in rich blue connecticut this week

    afscme and the others voted down the gub

    so daniel malloy is gonna SLASH

    Union Deal Defeated; Gov. Dannel P. Malloy Pledges To Cut Close to 7,500 State Workers - CTnow

    from athens to new haven, there's nothing any of you can do to stop it

    party on, progressives, seeya at the polls

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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    The democrats left the state to get this done..
    they were warned, but they insisted

    bravo unions, hip hip horay
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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    and the GOP plan of making American's even dumber is going strong.. hey soon people will actually believe that Jesus rode dinos, the world is flat and the sun revolves around the Earth....
    You just -have- admire someone who, without shame -indeed, with great pride - spouts unmitigated partisan bigotry.

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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    It is possible what Tess is a problem that we are seeing in many schools however one has to also look at statistics about how good our education is and try to go from there as well. In many countries for example they teach useful languages such as English. Here the main language still taught is Spanish. Instead of teaching a language that most of us will not use why not look at every states unique situation and teach a language that could be applied in business? For example in Kentucky I believe Japanese should be offered to students as not only do many younger people find the culture and the language interesting, but a great deal of the manufacturing taking place in Kentucky is with Japanese partners. In states where there is a high percentage of students interested in joining the military, why not teach Arabic? Also while math and science was never my best subject it is something that needs to be thoroughly taught better. Even longer school days could be beneficial.
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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    wrong thread, oopsy.

    I agree mostly, John
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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    So too does mismanagement of public funds.


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    yes, it does. And I would not object to better management. However, cutting just to eb cutting, without a plan, losing teachers, no, that says something about what we care about and it concerns me that education isn't a priority. At least not like it should be.

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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    yes, it does. And I would not object to better management. However, cutting just to eb cutting, without a plan, losing teachers, no, that says something about what we care about and it concerns me that education isn't a priority. At least not like it should be.
    It is the responsibility of the districts to plan for spending increase and cuts. It is the responsibility of the districts to decide how to handle a decrease in funds. The state government didn't tell the districts to jump to lay-offs before trying to negotiate cuts or freezes in pay, or cutting administration, or any other number of possible scenarios. The school systems are playing us to create outrage. They're taking it no more seriously than you think the government is.
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