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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I like this plan. With all pay and benefits considered public sector union members are paid way more than the private sector taxpayer who provides the money. It was time for a serious correction.
    Of course you do. Stevie Wonder could see that coming. A far right wing plan to weaken and possible destroy the working class in America gets support from far right extremists who share those far right goals.

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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I actually believe this is a misinterpretation on your part. And anyone who uses the term Marxist to describe Obama is so far in delusional land that one has to question whether rational discussion is even possible.
    Wow! Is this how you tend to address anyone whom may have serious disagreements with you? Name call, and pettiness first? It is certainly acceptable to argue that Obama is not a hardcore Marxist, but that doesn't by any means rule out that a heavy portion of his ideological stance relies heavily on tenants of Marx, if not outright Communism. Obama uses buzz wording like 'Social Justice', and 'Collective Salvation' sprinkled in with a host of speeches I believe designed to lull the listener to sleep while his chin is still jutted outward in Moussalli fashion. Deny it as you so arrogantly, and obviously will, but the people see, and are not sleeping any longer.

    However, I try. First off, the wealthy are not being deprived of their wealth. They are doing fine. Paying a few more percentage points of taxes is not depriving them of their wealth. It is not only dishonest to say it is, but more than a little silly. What we have is a budget problem all around that will require both spending cuts and tax increases. This is not marxist, or socialist, or any other ism. This is partical problem solving.
    The dishonest part is that where you want the American people to believe once again that you will actually do both as you say. The track record on this shows a different story, and you my misguided friend are arguing to leave the drug addict in charge of the Pharmacy.

    Now, I suggest you step back from your excessive ideological delusion and try to see things more clearly. No one of any siginficance or seriousness is threatening what you claim.
    Beautiful, you end it just as you started with insult, and arrogance. You need to understand that significance, and seriousness are not trademarks of the liberal alone. People can disagree with you, and that doesn't make them any less serious, nor significant in their argument. So how's about you drop the BS eh?

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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I like this plan. With all pay and benefits considered public sector union members are paid way more than the private sector taxpayer who provides the money. It was time for a serious correction.
    The public sector worker pays taxes also.
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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by Layla_Z View Post
    The public sector worker pays taxes also.
    With the added benefit of getting to elect their own boss, whom they will negotiate their pay with....hmmmm...Not a real good roadmap for remaining honest now is it?

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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    With the added benefit of getting to elect their own boss, whom they will negotiate their pay with....hmmmm...Not a real good roadmap for remaining honest now is it?

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    You only get to help elect the board if you live in the district where you teach, which not all teachers do. Also, you get one vote, that is certainly no guarantee that you get the best school board. I don't know what you mean by honest. Do you think that teachers shouldn't be able to vote for school board members? I'd actually trust the teachers' judgement on what is best for the school.
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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by Layla_Z View Post
    You only get to help elect the board if you live in the district where you teach, which not all teachers do. Also, you get one vote, that is certainly no guarantee that you get the best school board. I don't know what you mean by honest. Do you think that teachers shouldn't be able to vote for school board members? I'd actually trust the teachers' judgement on what is best for the school.
    Actually I was speaking about the demo politicians that the liberal NEA pumps with money to their campaigns, and then leans on them while in office for the quid pro quo. So what do I mean by "honest" well we can start with not distorting my words.

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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    With the added benefit of getting to elect their own boss, whom they will negotiate their pay with....hmmmm...Not a real good roadmap for remaining honest now is it?

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    Elect their own boss!?!?!?!?!?!?

    What is it that you are talking about?

    I taught in the public school system for over 33 years and never on a single occasion did I get to elect my boss. Not once.
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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Elect their own boss!?!?!?!?!?!?

    What is it that you are talking about?

    I taught in the public school system for over 33 years and never on a single occasion did I get to elect my boss. Not once.
    You don't vote? I already clarified, maybe read down before frothing next time.

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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You don't vote? I already clarified, maybe read down before frothing next time.

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    If what you wrote in post #126 is your idea of backing up your claim, you have miles and miles to go before you even come close to proving your allegations. Not only can you not connect the dots, your dots are on different pages, in different books really.
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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    If what you wrote in post #126 is your idea of backing up your claim, you have miles and miles to go before you even come close to proving your allegations. Not only can you not connect the dots, your dots are on different pages, in different books really.
    That might really hurt, if I thought your opinion of me mattered on little bit....

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