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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I don't accept that teacher poensions (sic) are as large a problem as you accept
    what you do or don't accept is largely irrelevant outside new south wales

    the pensions are exactly as big a problem as they are

    CNBC: States Warned of $2.5 Trillion Pensions Shortfall

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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    if that is the problem, address that problem
    but that's exactly what kaukauna is doing, didn't you READ the link everyone's talking about?

    the district turned a $400000 deficit into 1.5M of surplus by getting teachers to contribute to their health care and pensions, by shopping around for coverage, by reducing teacher prep and increasing work week...

    read much?

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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    responsible people don't just cut spending. They often attack revenue as well.
    not cuomo, not brown, not malloy...

    are they irresponsible?

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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Frankly, both parties spend
    not anymore

    these days both parties CUT

    where ya been?

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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    I know that's the way you guys want it. Take education away from the poor, too. That way, they'll stay that way. It's already been done to college, why not elementary school, too!
    Do you think bankrupting the state helps, or hinders the poor? Do you think that breaking the corrupt power nexus between public sector unions and democrat politicians hurts the poor? Or does it significantly help everyone who pays the onerous taxes?

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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Kids are second to the budget...
    As they and every other group with wants should be. Let's privatized the schools. Lets take the average amount that a state pays per student per month and give to every parent a voucher for that amount of money for each of their children who attend school. The le the market decide what is to be taught and for what price. Let every parent decide how many dollars to spend on education and for the kind of education they want for their children.

    Those who want the sciences can craft an offering that is heavy on science and light on socio-political correctness. The can become future leaders at all levels. Those who want the children to learn all sorts of essentially useless things can send their children to schools with those offerings. They can become tomorrow's followers.

    The schools that offer the parent what the parent is willing to pay for will prosper. Others might not. Teachers will be paid based on their ability to generate profits for the schools where they teach. Everyone wins. The schools owners win. The teachers win. The parents win. The students win. The taxpayers win. Well, some politicians will win too, but only for making it happen.

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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    And who is thretening this? Seriously.
    Statists do every day. Many on this board who are liberal or with an undisclosed lean behave as if all property belongs to the state and the rich should not be allowed to keep so much of their property. This is a threat to all of us. It is the way tyranny begins and takes root in a society. It has already taken hold here. Just look around.

    In a poll taken in the last few months about one-fourth of the likely votes align themselves with the philosophy of the one term Marxist president Obama. They believe that top down, centralized control of business by politicians is the right way to organize society. They believe, with him, in economic justice, meaning wealth redistribution. Meaning not so much equal opportunity before the law but equal outcomes regardless of decision or circumstance ought to drive our policies. This is the central core belief of Marxists. "From each according to his abilities. To each according to his need."

    This failure to protect the right to keep the wealth one creates, to own and enjoy one's property, protected by society's laws rather than being threatened by societies laws, will harm us all. It is only a matter of time.

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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    without wrongly percieving everything as an attack
    a mindless sterotype
    just such a effort
    prominate democrats
    ignorance has it's consequences
    Only an idiot believes that money spend without a plan is proper
    the cuts will likely come on the wrong places
    bowing before the alter
    mindless sterotypes
    what we truely value
    your mindless sterotype effort
    you just dug into the sterotype
    nothing done to spend smarter, not more
    we should not accept these blind, untarget cuts
    I have at times took a second job
    how many times have the republcans won both the congress and presidency and accomplish nothing
    the democrats controling both congress and the presidency
    continuely just throw money
    Our larger problem is that we simply don't tackle problems outside of a political framework that divides us in to side, us and them, whoever us and them are
    That's good to here
    are you more sterotypical
    small patatoes
    Cutting will only be delt with effectively
    Nothing else will make a dent, and is a waste of energy
    dept chair, huh?

    LOL!

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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    When the GOP was swept to major victories in November of 2010, we started to hear about their plans. I was about to take a job with the State Legislature and was in on lots of the inside machinations going on. Very early on, the idea took hold that the Republicans wanted all state employees to take a 10 to 20% cut in pay and to increase the amount they paid into health insurance. But - and this is key - they did NOT want any layoffs or cutbacks in service because that would have a negative impact upon the citizens. In a nutshell, the plan was to get the same work for less.
    I like this plan. With all pay and benefits considered public sector union members are paid way more than the private sector taxpayer who provides the money. It was time for a serious correction.

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    Re: Milwaukee schools to lay off 354 teachers

    more cutting just to cut

    TENS OF BILLIONS of cuts just to cut, indeed

    California budget: Democrats pass austerity budget - Los Angeles Times

    darn those politicians

    all that cutting without a plan

    just hurting all those kids

    and doing it all for those corrupt lobbyists

    where's the value, where the investment?

    where's the revenue?

    tsk tsk...

    is this what we all have come to?

    what's next?

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