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    Re: Eric Cantor and Private Jet Tax Breaks

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    Rep. Todd Tiahrt didn’t vote for it and it passed 246-183 in the House so I’m not sure where you come up with the idea that the stimulus wouldn’t have passed without this tax cut in it.
    And, I made no claim that the bill wouldn't have passed without this tax cut in it. Where did you come up with the idea that I did?

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    Re: Eric Cantor and Private Jet Tax Breaks

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    You're making an equate between voting on the record against the final bill and not having anything you want in it. The equate is not there. Rep. Todd Tiahrt got the tax break he wanted in the bill, actually voting for the whole bill is negotiated separately. I think that he didn't like the spending part of the stimulus bill, but a tax break for his constituents would be great for him.
    It is a tax break for everyone in the US and you are losing me on the idea that he is somehow relevant to the stimulus passing.

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    Re: Eric Cantor and Private Jet Tax Breaks

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    Note, again it appears that this tax break was pushed for by a Republican. So contact Rep. Todd Tiahrt, R-Kan about the jobs he saved with his tax break. If I was in Obama's position I would have accepted Rep. Todd Tiahrt, R-Kan tax break to get the rest of my stimulus package passed.
    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    And, I made no claim that the bill wouldn't have passed without this tax cut in it. Where did you come up with the idea that I did?
    It sure looked that way to me.

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    Re: Eric Cantor and Private Jet Tax Breaks

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    So Obama had a press conference on taxes and the economy today. Obama mentioned as one example, an example obviously used to bait the Republicans and see how they would respond, getting rid of a corporate jet tax break. By a lot of estimates, it equals to around a paltry 2-3 billion dollars. However, if you consider a lot of the things Republicans want to cut and of course are supposed to be much more fiscally conservative, it can add up to quite a bit if you take away several dozen goofy tax breaks that really in the end benefit an incredibly small few people let alone private businesses. So you would think, "Man the Republicans would have to at least say hey that sounds fair, lets talk about getting rid of this silly stuff." That wasn't their response at all. Instead, according to Eric Cantor's office they refused any kind of "tax increases" and added that and get this, "2 billion really isn't that much anyways." lol o rly?

    So there you have it folks. I am 100% done listening to anything a mainstream Republican has to say when they can't even agree that an incredibly small fix to the tax code shouldn't be done.
    Are you aware that corporate jet tax breaks were a part of the porkulus package? Whose big idea was that, exactly?

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    Re: Eric Cantor and Private Jet Tax Breaks

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    It is a tax break for everyone in the US and you are losing me on the idea that he is somehow relevant to the stimulus passing.
    You're not thinking about how bills are actually written (mostly negotiated) then voted on. If I had the tax break in a bill that I wanted and that I argued for, but the bill had spending on stuff I didn't want spending on would I vote for it? No way if it was going to pass anyway. That way I get credit (or more) for the tax cut from both companies and their workers while holding the party line by voting No. Rep. Todd Tiahrt isn't stupid. Neither was Obama for signing it. Stupid is thinking that Obama wanted a tax cut on corporate jets and Rep. Todd Tiahrt didn’t.

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    Re: Eric Cantor and Private Jet Tax Breaks

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    So Obama calls people who make 250G a year or more "private jet" people. Lets analyize this.

    The cheapest "private jet" made today:



    That jet costs 2.65 million dollars and holds a grand total of 4-5 people.

    The "private jet" Obama uses:



    And he doesn't use 1, he uses 2. And uses them on the taxpayer dime.

    I think its about time for Obama to shut the **** up.
    1) Please show where Obama called 250k the "private jet" crowd
    2) You can get jets larger than that one for under a million, used
    3) The President of the United States needs to be able to fight a nuclear war from his jet.
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    Re: Eric Cantor and Private Jet Tax Breaks

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    It sure looked that way to me.
    Nope, when you’re in the administration’s position you may had to have many of these compromises in the bill. You don't know if you will need them all or if you've done too many or too little. But, if I knew that "I needed Rep. Todd Tiahrt, R-Kan tax break to get the rest of my stimulus package passed" it would be fine with me.

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    Re: Eric Cantor and Private Jet Tax Breaks

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    1) Please show where Obama called 250k the "private jet" crowd
    2) You can get jets larger than that one for under a million, used
    3) The President of the United States needs to be able to fight a nuclear war from his jet.
    1. Obama Calls People Earning $250,000 a Year ‘Jet Owners’ - The Wealth Report - WSJ
    2. I posted the cheapest new jet you could buy. I mean after all, does it really count if you buy a 40yo private jet?
    3. The POTUS doesn't need a ****ing 747 to make some ****ing phone calls. And he sure the **** doesn't need two.
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    Re: Eric Cantor and Private Jet Tax Breaks

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    1) Please show where Obama called 250k the "private jet" crowd
    2) You can get jets larger than that one for under a million, used
    3) The President of the United States needs to be able to fight a nuclear war from his jet.
    You should really try and stay more informed of what your messiah wants to do.

    Obama Calls People Earning $250,000 a Year ‘Jet Owners’ - The Wealth Report - WSJ

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    Re: Eric Cantor and Private Jet Tax Breaks

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    You're not thinking about how bills are actually written (mostly negotiated) then voted on. If I had the tax break in a bill that I wanted and that I argued for, but the bill had spending on stuff I didn't want spending on would I vote for it? No way if it was going to pass anyway. That way I get credit (or more) for the tax cut from both companies and their workers while holding the party line by voting No. Rep. Todd Tiahrt isn't stupid. Neither was Obama for signing it. Stupid is thinking that Obama wanted a tax cut on corporate jets and Rep. Todd Tiahrt didn’t.
    Ok, now your point is clearer to me. Thanks for clarifying.

    So following your line of logic then, can you explain why Obama has proudly referred to his tax cuts in the stimulus countless times and claimed that those tax cuts, as well as his extension of the Bush tax cuts, helped save or create jobs?

    You see, Obama claims that tax cuts do what republicans claim tax cuts do whenever he signs them into law so your point is invalid.
    Last edited by GPS_Flex; 06-30-11 at 01:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
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