"It's not surprising, then, he gets bitter, he clings to golf clubs or basketballs or antipathy to white people who aren't like him or anti-American sentiment or anti-capitalist sentiment as a way to explain his frustrations." ~ Helianthus
Economy is bad under Obama = The economy's just going to do what it does regardless of whose in office
I love this argument. Its so wonderful, because it basically absolves Obama of any responsability. "Perfect idea guys, its universally accepted the economy went bad under Bush. Now, lets say that whatever happens to it is entirely out of Obama's hand and its really just going to do whatever its going to do. That way, we can absolve him of ANY responsability and keep blaming it on Bush. And hey, if it does get better we can just ignore what we said before and claim its all because of Obama. Its not like we've not just ignored previous statements before. Remember when we said he was amazingly intelligent and he ran a campaign on improving the economy, which we ignore with our current statements because if we didn't it'd make it out like he was an idiot promising to fix something we now say he'd have no ability to help. I love how the world works when you're a liberal".
That's right folks. When its election season after Bush is in office, you can run that you're going to fix the economy. Then after you get in office, you can claim that any sign that the economy is worsening is Bush's fault. Then after you've done a few years worth of things that influence the economy and it still gets worse, you can claim that you're not at falt because the economy's going to do what it does. And, then, when its time to run for election again, you can claim you need to be the one to be in charge of fixing the economy because the other guys screwed it up and would screw it up again because its not going to just spin how its going to spin.
Becuase that all makes perfect sense.
If you want to just never, ever, ever take any sort of responsability what so ever. Bush along with a Republican Congress at first and a Democratic Congress afterwords, during which the collapse occured and the largest deficits of his presidency occured if my memory serves, spiraled us into this mess. Obama, intiially under a Democratic Congress and then a split one, then took the issue Bush created and attempted to "Fix" it by pumping it full of growth hormone that just exasserbated the issue.
Bush deserves criticism? Absolutely. But Obama and the Congress deserve it in lock step with him at this point. We're almost 3/4ths through his Presidency, at some point as Barack Obama said in 2006...the buck must stop there.
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"I am appalled that somebody who is the nominee...would take that kind of position"
"A court took away a presidency"
"...the brother of a man running for president was the governor of the state..."
It's horrifying because Trump is blunt instead of making overt implications.
Actually Obama is acting like a petulant child, as Mark Helperin said yesterday: " The President is acting like a dick."
Mr. President......shut up and do your job.
Obama is NOT 50 feet tall, he is ONE inch deep.
If Congress does not do it's job, Obama should just ignore Congress, and just print money and pay debts. Why, you ask? Isn't it Congress that holds the purse strings? Yes it is, but the 14th Amendment to the Constitution says....
This says that we must pay money we owe. It's the law. So ignore Congress, print more money, and pay the debts that we are required to pay by law. Let's then see what the Supreme Court says, because I am sure it will go there. And SCOTUS will have one hell of a conundrum. If they support the administration, then they violate the Constitution. If they go against the administration, then they violate the Constitution. It would be the only time in US history that one part of the Constitution violates another part of the Constitution, and this would be a Constitutional crisis. Better yet, Congress should just do it's job, and we can work out the details of this problem in the future.The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned.
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The ghost of Jack Kevorkian for President's Physician: 2016
Sure we have to pay our debts, but new expenditures over and above the current level will be rejected. The President cannot just go off on his own and ignore the Legislative Branch of government and financially do what he wants. He'll have to pick and choose what to pay.Originally Posted by danarhea
“I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.
America to Obama: Do YOUR job first, then tell us how to do ours!