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    Re: Obama Hammers Congress: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    EXACTLY.

    The Republican "we don't want to raise the debt ceiling" is nothing but political posturing and strategy.

    Simiarly, Barack Obama's "DO YOUR JOB" is the exact same thing.

    Its not leadership, its not honest dialog, its not caring...its pure partisan politics and strategy in trying to paint the enemy as the ones causing issues to try and force pressure for your side to get more. Nothing more, nothing different, nothing new.

    This will come down, similar to the budget debate, to the last moments and something rather unsatisfying to both sides will be passed. Nothing signiifcant either way is going to get done on this issue till 2012.
    I agree. Ultimately, my guess is that the deal will be something less than the $2.4 trillion figure initially sought to lift the debt ceiling, probably between $1 trillion-$2 trillion. There will be no tax hikes/tax policy changes (Republicans will claim that they honored their commitment not to raise taxes). There will be no significant changes to the mandatory spending programs (Democrats will argue that they protected those programs). There may be some "savings" from eliminating waste/increasing efficiency/utilizing technology (Republicans would argue that the process for reforming mandatory spending programs had started), however if the past is representative, those "savings" would likely be overestimated. A majority of actual cuts may involve discretionary spending programs. The more difficult changes will be expressed in terms of goals/targets for which policy details would need to be developed in the future (not a certainty, of course). In effect, a self-inflicted crisis would be averted, but the really big decisions would again have been postponed. As a result, at least IMO, the actual fiscal consolidation component would be short in credibility.
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    Re: Obama Hammers Congress: Do Your Job

    Hate to break it to The Obama - Congress IS doing its job.
    Much to His chagrin, Congress is not beholden to the whims and fancies of The Secular Messiah.

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    Re: Obama Hammers Congress: Do Your Job

    How irnoic Obama lecturing people about being leaders! LOL

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    Re: Obama Hammers Congress: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    Why would they be moved by his words? It's, mostly, a bunch of hapless politicians not really doing their jobs, being told to be leaders by a president that lacks leadership.
    I'm not moved at all because he's the leader of the problem. He gets on TV and makes these little anecdotal stories about his daughters homework. I'd respect the man if he said this and for the past year or 6 months, has been rolling up his sleeves and doing everything possible to get this deficit issue fixed, compromise, whatever. Instead he's detached, critical, and is sitting on the sideline trying to position himself "above it all", which is BS.
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    Re: Obama Hammers Congress: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    Debt is good if those you borrow from have 100% certainty that you will repay it because you get an interest rate that is so low you can invest in infrastructure and get a great return on your money. That is the kind of debt Regan was talking about and yes, this kind of debt is good.

    Today we are on the brink of losing our stellar credit rating because government spending is out of control and entitlement program expenditures are out of control. When the debt becomes such a high percentage of the GDP, it is no longer a good thing.

    It is like water. Water is good unless you get too much of it all at once and can no longer control it.
    So what you are saying is debt is good as long as the money is going to programs you like. It is bad when it is going to programs you don't like. You can't have it both ways. So it was alright that Reagan Bush and Bush built up so much debt that Obama who i do not defend has no money to spend then you bitch at him when he raise the debt. Hmmmm go figure. I guess what it amounts to is debt is good if the Republican conservatives do it but not for anyone else. hehehehehehe you're funny.
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    Re: Obama Hammers Congress: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post
    Please Liberals tell the American Taxpayer you need more tax money while the Government literally burns hundreds of Billions of dollars in waste, fraud and abuse. Tell 'em of how you can't stop the fraud and it's easier to just charge US MORE tax instead of stopping the folks ripping us off.
    Are you trying to say that The Republicans never added to the debt? Think back. LOL do you hire out as a stand up.
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    Re: Obama Hammers Congress: Do Your Job

    In my opinion, this is really just the start of the Obama/Biden 2012 campaign.
    Expect more of this tough guy talk and appeals to emotion, until he's reelected.
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    Re: Obama Hammers Congress: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    In my opinion, this is really just the start of the Obama/Biden 2012 campaign.
    Expect more of this tough guy talk and appeals to emotion, until he's reelected.
    Many Presidents have done the same thing. So is it worse when Obama does it or is it just like any of the others who have said very similar things. The people by their votes should be saying to congress do your job or good bye. For two years the Republicans were the just say no to everything party at the cost of a nation. That was a good thing? Please
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    Re: Obama Hammers Congress: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    Hate to break it to The Obama - Congress IS doing its job.
    Much to His chagrin, Congress is not beholden to the whims and fancies of The Secular Messiah.
    Their job is going on vacation on your wallet while the nation falls apart.
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    Re: Obama Hammers Congress: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    Many Presidents have done the same thing. So is it worse when Obama does it or is it just like any of the others who have said very similar things. The people by their votes should be saying to congress do your job or good bye. For two years the Republicans were the just say no to everything party at the cost of a nation. That was a good thing? Please
    I just don't buy the campaign crap.
    I hate the tough guy image and emotional clap trap, no matter who engages in it.

    These stories with the image posturing are the honey potion of the plebiscite.

    See you even buy the "the party of no" talking point, it's hilarious the crap people believe.
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