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Obama Hammers Congress: Do Your Job

Nah.

When did these deficits start? When President Bush started
a) spending more
and
b) taxing less

It was not simply a, it was b. Our government started to spend more money while collecting less. The Democrats are proving that they're willing to compromise, and the Republicans are, as usual, taking the "our way or the highway" approach.

this is a joke, right?

You dont raise revenue by increasing taxes, thats just silly..

You cut spending, which is what, thank God the GOP is finally suggesting..

But Bozobama has himself backed into a political corner coming up on an election cycle, so hes using scare tactics, and tax the rich rhetoric.

wont work.. we have wised to his nothingness
 
Stop buying the liberal rhetoric and leftwing website information. What exactly did the GOP filibuster that would have made things better than they are today? Obama had overwhelming control of the Congress including a period of time with a filibuster proof Congress and generated the results we see today, 14.7 million unemployed Americans, a 3 million reduction in the labor force with growing population, less than 2% GDP growth and 4 trillion added to the debt. You conveniently blame Republicans when it was the Democrats that generated this record.

The Democrats controlled the legislative process from Jan 2007 to the end of the Bush term and had total control from 2009-2011 and the results today are worse than when they took office. That is reality that you want to ignore. Actual data confirms my statement and yet you divert from reality.

You respond as if you think i am defending Obama. I clearly am not. I think your entire government is filled with jokes. Their are few that do any good at all. If someone is going to attack Obama they should make sure they are looking at both sides. The fact is Two wars later your country is in the outhouse. That is what started the downward spiral. Bush started them Obama didn't stop them. Congress on both sides of the aisle funded them. That is why you are where you are today. It has little to do with the social programs and tax cuts or anything else. But the voters keep putting the same jerks back in office and the same two parties like it is religion. To end the cycle you need to end the reign of the two party system or you will wind up a third world nation. So read what I am saying before you say I read liberal anything. You haven't a clue what I read or hear. You see a couple of words and make a snap judgment. Maybe a course for you on reading for understanding might help. Maybe if you can't do that you could ask your mom or dad to help you understand. Thanks for sharing.
 
You respond as if you think i am defending Obama. I clearly am not. I think your entire government is filled with jokes. Their are few that do any good at all. If someone is going to attack Obama they should make sure they are looking at both sides. The fact is Two wars later your country is in the outhouse. That is what started the downward spiral. Bush started them Obama didn't stop them. Congress on both sides of the aisle funded them. That is why you are where you are today. It has little to do with the social programs and tax cuts or anything else. But the voters keep putting the same jerks back in office and the same two parties like it is religion. To end the cycle you need to end the reign of the two party system or you will wind up a third world nation. So read what I am saying before you say I read liberal anything. You haven't a clue what I read or hear. You see a couple of words and make a snap judgment. Maybe a course for you on reading for understanding might help. Maybe if you can't do that you could ask your mom or dad to help you understand. Thanks for sharing.

well said..

come on Tea Party, time to get back to basics, agreed
 
You respond as if you think i am defending Obama. I clearly am not. I think your entire government is filled with jokes. Their are few that do any good at all. If someone is going to attack Obama they should make sure they are looking at both sides. The fact is Two wars later your country is in the outhouse. That is what started the downward spiral. Bush started them Obama didn't stop them. Congress on both sides of the aisle funded them. That is why you are where you are today. It has little to do with the social programs and tax cuts or anything else. But the voters keep putting the same jerks back in office and the same two parties like it is religion. To end the cycle you need to end the reign of the two party system or you will wind up a third world nation. So read what I am saying before you say I read liberal anything. You haven't a clue what I read or hear. You see a couple of words and make a snap judgment. Maybe a course for you on reading for understanding might help. Maybe if you can't do that you could ask your mom or dad to help you understand. Thanks for sharing.

The fact is in the last two plus years this President has added 4 trillion to the debt. Every economic promise that Obama made was an absolute lie and if Bush did it the left would be screaming like I am now.

You are right, I don't know what you read but I do know that you have very poor understanding of U.S. history, U.S. Civics, or economics. This country has created a 14.4 trillion dollar debt today and that wasn't caused by the two wars that cost about 1.2 trillion over the last 10 years. Liberal social engineering on things like the Great Society and New Deal created most of the debt we are paying for today as well as spending the SS and Medicare trust funds. Now maybe it is you that should ask your Mom or Dad to help you with a history, civics, and economics education.
 
Liberal social engineering on things like the Great Society and New Deal created most of the debt we are paying for today as well as spending the SS and Medicare trust funds.

AND..

he added another one, or is trying to
 
AND..

he added another one, or is trying to

It costs money to buy votes and keeping people dependent does indeed buy votes. Obama appeals to his base and shows his arrogance and lack of leadership skills and his base jumps on board. We are at that tipping point right now with almost 50% of the income earners in this country paying zero federal income taxes. Think those people have any problem raising taxes on the other 50%? Adding social programs appeals to those who lack initiative, drive, and the ability to compete in a free enterprise market place.
 
I will defer to John Stewart on this: LINK (watch from the 4:00 mark on)

I also like "overseas contingency operation". He is such a great communicator.

Right. If he's not scrounging up highfalutin' phrases to avoid telling the simple truth he's exaggerating about doctors cutting off feet and taking out tonsils for big bucks and refusing to give asthmatic kids breathalyzers. He is a distasteful communicator, a low life in my opinion.
 
Oh stop with the silliness. The nation was in a mess when he came into office and don't lie and say it wasn't. He has not helped much if any but the economy is going to spin as it spins no matter who is in office at this point.

Economy is bad under bush = ITS BUSHES FAULT

Economy is bad under Obama = The economy's just going to do what it does regardless of whose in office

I love this argument. Its so wonderful, because it basically absolves Obama of any responsability. "Perfect idea guys, its universally accepted the economy went bad under Bush. Now, lets say that whatever happens to it is entirely out of Obama's hand and its really just going to do whatever its going to do. That way, we can absolve him of ANY responsability and keep blaming it on Bush. And hey, if it does get better we can just ignore what we said before and claim its all because of Obama. Its not like we've not just ignored previous statements before. Remember when we said he was amazingly intelligent and he ran a campaign on improving the economy, which we ignore with our current statements because if we didn't it'd make it out like he was an idiot promising to fix something we now say he'd have no ability to help. I love how the world works when you're a liberal".

That's right folks. When its election season after Bush is in office, you can run that you're going to fix the economy. Then after you get in office, you can claim that any sign that the economy is worsening is Bush's fault. Then after you've done a few years worth of things that influence the economy and it still gets worse, you can claim that you're not at falt because the economy's going to do what it does. And, then, when its time to run for election again, you can claim you need to be the one to be in charge of fixing the economy because the other guys screwed it up and would screw it up again because its not going to just spin how its going to spin.

Becuase that all makes perfect sense.

If you want to just never, ever, ever take any sort of responsability what so ever. Bush along with a Republican Congress at first and a Democratic Congress afterwords, during which the collapse occured and the largest deficits of his presidency occured if my memory serves, spiraled us into this mess. Obama, intiially under a Democratic Congress and then a split one, then took the issue Bush created and attempted to "Fix" it by pumping it full of growth hormone that just exasserbated the issue.

Bush deserves criticism? Absolutely. But Obama and the Congress deserve it in lock step with him at this point. We're almost 3/4ths through his Presidency, at some point as Barack Obama said in 2006...the buck must stop there.
 
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Actually Obama is acting like a petulant child, as Mark Helperin said yesterday: " The President is acting like a dick."

Mr. President......shut up and do your job.
 
If Congress does not do it's job, Obama should just ignore Congress, and just print money and pay debts. Why, you ask? Isn't it Congress that holds the purse strings? Yes it is, but the 14th Amendment to the Constitution says....

The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned.

This says that we must pay money we owe. It's the law. So ignore Congress, print more money, and pay the debts that we are required to pay by law. Let's then see what the Supreme Court says, because I am sure it will go there. And SCOTUS will have one hell of a conundrum. If they support the administration, then they violate the Constitution. If they go against the administration, then they violate the Constitution. It would be the only time in US history that one part of the Constitution violates another part of the Constitution, and this would be a Constitutional crisis. Better yet, Congress should just do it's job, and we can work out the details of this problem in the future.
 
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danarhea said:
This says that we must pay money we owe. It's the law. So ignore Congress, print more money, and pay the debts that we are required to pay by law. Let's then see what the Supreme Court says, because I am sure it will go there. And SCOTUS will have one hell of a conundrum. If they support the administration, then they violate the Constitution. If they go against the administration, then they violate the Constitution. It will be the only time in US history that one part of the Constitution violates another part of the Constitution, and this would be a Constitutional crisis.

Sure we have to pay our debts, but new expenditures over and above the current level will be rejected. The President cannot just go off on his own and ignore the Legislative Branch of government and financially do what he wants. He'll have to pick and choose what to pay.
 
Read that on HuffPo yesterday didja?

If Congress does not do it's job, Obama should just ignore Congress, and just print money and pay debts. Why, you ask? Isn't it Congress that holds the purse strings? Yes it is, but the 14th Amendment to the Constitution says....



This says that we must pay money we owe. It's the law. So ignore Congress, print more money, and pay the debts that we are required to pay by law. Let's then see what the Supreme Court says, because I am sure it will go there. And SCOTUS will have one hell of a conundrum. If they support the administration, then they violate the Constitution. If they go against the administration, then they violate the Constitution. It would be the only time in US history that one part of the Constitution violates another part of the Constitution, and this would be a Constitutional crisis. Better yet, Congress should just do it's job, and we can work out the details of this problem in the future.
 
America to Obama: Do YOUR job first, then tell us how to do ours!
 
If Congress does not do it's job, Obama should just ignore Congress, and just print money and pay debts. Why, you ask? Isn't it Congress that holds the purse strings? Yes it is, but the 14th Amendment to the Constitution says....



This says that we must pay money we owe. It's the law. So ignore Congress, print more money, and pay the debts that we are required to pay by law. Let's then see what the Supreme Court says, because I am sure it will go there. And SCOTUS will have one hell of a conundrum. If they support the administration, then they violate the Constitution. If they go against the administration, then they violate the Constitution. It would be the only time in US history that one part of the Constitution violates another part of the Constitution, and this would be a Constitutional crisis. Better yet, Congress should just do it's job, and we can work out the details of this problem in the future.

Yeah, print more money.... thats the answer. Let's add surplus and unbacked monetary notes to our mounting debt to further devalue the dollar... great economic plan there chief.
 
If Congress does not do it's job, Obama should just ignore Congress, and just print money and pay debts. Why, you ask? Isn't it Congress that holds the purse strings? Yes it is, but the 14th Amendment to the Constitution says....



This says that we must pay money we owe. It's the law. So ignore Congress, print more money, and pay the debts that we are required to pay by law. Let's then see what the Supreme Court says, because I am sure it will go there. And SCOTUS will have one hell of a conundrum. If they support the administration, then they violate the Constitution. If they go against the administration, then they violate the Constitution. It would be the only time in US history that one part of the Constitution violates another part of the Constitution, and this would be a Constitutional crisis. Better yet, Congress should just do it's job, and we can work out the details of this problem in the future.

We take in plenty of enough to pay what we must. It's all the other crap we can skip paying. We have no Constitutional obligation to study the sex life of snails or even a fraction of the things we do.
 
Sure we have to pay our debts, but new expenditures over and above the current level will be rejected. The President cannot just go off on his own and ignore the Legislative Branch of government and financially do what he wants. He'll have to pick and choose what to pay.

He can't pick and choose what has already been committed to, and there's the rub.
 
Actually Obama is acting like a petulant child, as Mark Helperin said yesterday: " The President is acting like a dick."

Mr. President......shut up and do your job.

How is telling Congress to do their job childish?
 
Obama needs to get off the golf course and do his job.
 
Obama needs to get off the golf course and do his job.


and stop bashing the people who already pay far more of the tax burden than they should

Obama's appeal to the lowest common denominator might buy him many votes of the class of people who don't pay federal income taxes and want others to pay more but his rhetoric is buggering up the country
 
Ya know all polls aside, and by judging some of the teetering I'm seeing now from Democrats even on this forum over the past few months, and my own personal democratic friends, I think the President is in deep trouble in 2012. It's not just wishful thinking that gets me to this point, but something so thick you can cut it with a knife. If he runs a campaign trying to raise taxes, no matter how clever he gets at making not sound like a tax hike, he's done, and frankly a frigging monkey can beat him. I predict that as 2012 approaches a lot more are going to be jumping ship, and he nowhere near raises the kind of money he did for the 08 election, 30 fund raisers in the last two months included..

There are the die hards, of course. We all know them, they post here every day, but reasonable conscience heavy citizens won't elect this clown again, and no amount of race baiting is going to help his campaign this time round.


If the republotards can stay on message, Obama is done.


Tim-
 
Ya know all polls aside, and by judging some of the teetering I'm seeing now from Democrats even on this forum over the past few months, and my own personal democratic friends, I think the President is in deep trouble in 2012.
My father has voted for Dems since 1956. The only Republican he's ever voted for was GHWB in 1988.
Obama makes him sick. He's changed parties and will vote for Ron Paul.
 
GOP Leadership Urges President To Talk To Them About Debt Ceiling


White House Snubs GOP Invitation



....yeah.... but it's Republicans who aren't being serious :roll:




Just so we're clear: Republicans passed a budget that would have solved this whole thing months ago. It died in the Democrat Controlled Senate. Democrat leadership demanded a "clean" debt limit increase - so GOP Leadership in the House gave them a vote on it and Democrats crossed the aisle to vote it down 318-97. Meanwhile the DEMOCRATS haven't put forth a budget for over TWO YEARS because they don't want to have to campaign on what they are actually spending - but we are supposed to believe that it's REPUBLICANS who aren't willing to make tough choices? The Republicans who were willing to go solo on entitlement reform?
 
GOP Leadership Urges President To Talk To Them About Debt Ceiling


White House Snubs GOP Invitation



....yeah.... but it's Republicans who aren't being serious :roll:




Just so we're clear: Republicans passed a budget that would have solved this whole thing months ago. It died in the Democrat Controlled Senate. Democrat leadership demanded a "clean" debt limit increase - so GOP Leadership in the House gave them a vote on it and Democrats crossed the aisle to vote it down 318-97. Meanwhile the DEMOCRATS haven't put forth a budget for over TWO YEARS because they don't want to have to campaign on what they are actually spending - but we are supposed to believe that it's REPUBLICANS who aren't willing to make tough choices? The Republicans who were willing to go solo on entitlement reform?

To the bolded: umm, no, they, didn't. That was Cantor's idea, and it was to score cheap political points.
 
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Read that on HuffPo yesterday didja?

WASHINGTON -- At a briefing with reporters on Wednesday, President Obama was asked whether he believed that the debt ceiling was constitutional or whether the 14th Amendment required the government to meet all of its obligations regardless of the debt-limit statute.

Obama dodged the question. "I'm not a Supreme Court Justice, so I'm not going to put my constitutional law professor hat on here," he said about the debt ceiling and a question on the war in Libya.

Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, however, is less afraid of wearing that hat. At a Politico Playbook breakfast on May 25, Geithner was asked by host Mike Allen about the negotiations over default and the debt ceiling.
Tim Geithner: 14th Amendment Says Debt 'Shall Not Be Questioned'

WASHINGTON -- Growing increasingly pessimistic about the prospects for a deal that would raise the debt ceiling, Democratic senators are revisiting a solution to the crisis that rests on a simple proposition: The debt ceiling itself is unconstitutional.

"The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law... shall not be questioned," reads the 14th Amendment.

"This is an issue that's been raised in some private debate between senators as to whether in fact we can default, or whether that provision of the Constitution can be held up as preventing default," Sen. Chris Coons (D-Del.), an attorney, told The Huffington Post Tuesday. "I don't think, as of a couple weeks ago, when this was first raised, it was seen as a pressing option. But I'll tell you that it's going to get a pretty strong second look as a way of saying, 'Is there some way to save us from ourselves?'"
14th Amendment: Democratic Senators See Debt Ceiling As Unconstitutional

Sure does look that way doesn't it?
 
To the bolded: umm, no, they, didn't. That was Cantor's idea, and it was to score cheap political points.

The Democrat who led the push for a clean vote, Rep. Peter Welch (Vt.), sharply criticized the GOP decision while saying he would support the legislation.

“I’ll support it, but it’s transparently a political maneuver,” he told The Hill. He said the letter he wrote — and which a majority of the Democratic Caucus signed — urged Republicans not to play politics with the issue. “What [GOP Majority Leader Eric] Cantor’s [Va.] maneuver is about is playing politics with the debt limit.”

'Clean' vote on debt limit set to trap Dems - TheHill.com

No, actually, it was a demand by the Democrats...
 
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