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    Re: Obama Hammers Congress: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    @ that chart stopping at 2008. I guess the screen resolution wouldn't fit the next few years....
    What it shows me is that Obama inherited a ****ed up economy that he is trying to fix. Which is par for the course for any Dem President taking over after eight years of typical republican incompetence.

    Kinda like a baseball team throwing in mop up pitchers to clean up a game that is pretty well lost. Doin the best you can, with what you got. In this case, what you got is, No-chin in the house” (“The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president”, a cryin drunk in the senate, pushin a poison a pill for granny and gramps proposed by Eddie Munster.

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    Re: Obama Hammers Congress: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post


    You overlooked a couple.
    You apparently do not understand the graph. It does not indicate any reductions in the debt over the time period covered.

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    Re: Obama Hammers Congress: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    What it shows me is that Obama inherited a ****ed up economy that he is trying to fix.
    How long before this excuse runs out?
    I'll wait while you consult you talking points.

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    Re: Obama Hammers Congress: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by RStringfield View Post
    The debt ceiling is a limit on the amount the government may borrow. It is not a limit on paying debts or servicing the debt. You are arguing that congress is legally obligated to INCUR debt because the 14th says that debts must be honored. Your argument is stupid and without merit.

    What is needed is for the Dems to face reality. The AARP has acknowledged that Social Security cannot continue as it is currently structured. Medicare is a bigger problem. The welfare state is going to destroy us if we do not make changes.

    Obama is wasting time arguing for tax hikes he could not get from congress when his own party was in control of it. How does he expect to get them from the GOP? He does not. The American people do not wish to raise taxes. Obama KNOWS that he is not going to get a tax hike. He is hoping to use this opportunity to score political points and win over some idiots that have no grasp of the issues. He is the one playing a political game of chicken.

    Continuing to increase our debt is not a good idea when the rest of the world is becoming more concerned about our ability to meet our debts. Our creditors are not idiots and they are well aware that our welfare programs are unsustainable and VERY difficult to change politically.
    Great point, amazing how so many continue to buy the Obama Administration lies. Meeting the debt ceiling has no affect on revenue being collected in the form of taxes so we have tax revenue coming in that services the debt. The debt ceiling is all about more spending, not servicing the existing debt. It will require the govt. to cut spending in some other areas and that prevents liberals from buying votes.

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    Re: Obama Hammers Congress: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    What it shows me is that Obama inherited a ****ed up economy that he is trying to fix. Which is par for the course for any Dem President taking over after eight years of typical republican incompetence.

    Kinda like a baseball team throwing in mop up pitchers to clean up a game that is pretty well lost. Doin the best you can, with what you got. In this case, what you got is, No-chin in the house” (“The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president”, a cryin drunk in the senate, pushin a poison a pill for granny and gramps proposed by Eddie Munster.

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    Again, 1012 billion 2008.... according to your map

    Where are we today? oh yeah at 14464 billion today......



    Ugly facts are ugly.



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    Re: Obama Hammers Congress: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    But it DOES require us to honor ALL debt that we have incurred. If Congress violates that provision, then the president has a good case to do it himself. Call it the Executive branch acting on a national emergency.
    Failing to raise the debt ceiling does not in any way necessarily mean we cannot cover our debt service, as we bring in far more revenue than what we pay in interest.
    Your argument is unsound.

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    Re: Obama Hammers Congress: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Again, 1012 billion 2008.... according to your map

    Where are we today? oh yeah at 14464 billion today......



    Ugly facts are ugly.



    Your excuse making fails, miserably.


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    Re: Obama Hammers Congress: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    What was it on inaugural day?


    Irrellevant, once the boat starts sinking, you don't put a bigger hole in the boat and blame the guy who put the smaller hole in the boat for sinking said boat when you could have instead plugged the hole..


    Bush Tarrped up the economy, which was the wrong thing to do, hence the spike where he was lowering it according to your graph, Obama doubled down on it, and you are making excuses for your guy....


    Putting up your argument with a straight face is quite the accomplishment.
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    Re: Obama Hammers Congress: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    What was it on inaugural day?
    Debt and deficits are two different issues. Obama has had 4 trillion dollars in deficits in 2 1/2 years. His 2010 budget had a 1.4 trillion dollar deficit, the 2011 deficit is projected at 1.6 trillion, and his 2009 stimulus, 350 billion TARP spending, and 100 billion dollar Afghanistan supplemental puts his deficits at 4 trillion dollars. None of that can be blamed on Bush yet liberals try.

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    Re: Obama Hammers Congress: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Debt and deficits are two different issues. Obama has had 4 trillion dollars in deficits in 2 1/2 years. His 2010 budget had a 1.4 trillion dollar deficit, the 2011 deficit is projected at 1.6 trillion, and his 2009 stimulus, 350 billion TARP spending, and 100 billion dollar Afghanistan supplemental puts his deficits at 4 trillion dollars. None of that can be blamed on Bush yet liberals try.
    of course it can........any war supplementals belong to bush. additionally, non discretionary spending is just that, non discretionary. obama did not create it. also, bush created (at the time) record debt, which has to be serviced, and thus adds to the deficit. it's shameful for you to pretend OUR crisis belongs solely to obama.

    what do you think of obama calling for a 5 year freeze on discretionary spending?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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