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    Re: Obama Hammers Congress: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    This is the Republican mantra. They are going to do everything they can to sabotage any possible deal, and sabotage America in the process too.
    Wrong! The President and Democrats want to increase spending, raise taxes and make meaningless cuts that won’t solve anything.

    You can scream that it is the Republican’s fault all you want but if the US begins to default on its debts, things are going to get Greece like here in the US and there is no chance in hell Obama gets re-elected.

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    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: Obama Hammers Congress: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    But it DOES require us to honor ALL debt that we have incurred. If Congress violates that provision, then the president has a good case to do it himself. Call it the Executive branch acting on a national emergency.
    He has no such case. The `14th CLEARLY says...

    Section 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

    ...

    This is argument is completely without merit and I doubt the courts would have much trouble with it.

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    Re: Obama Hammers Congress: Do Your Job

    What should we care? The congress doesn't care, so I can't be bothered, either.

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    Re: Obama Hammers Congress: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    What should we care? The congress doesn't care, so I can't be bothered, either.
    Is part of congress not caring, when Mitch McConnel took the liar n chief at his word and invited him up, only to be publicly snubed, and Obama fly off to Philly to campaign? Yeah ok...


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    Re: Obama Hammers Congress: Do Your Job

    The Bamsters response..."It's not a conversation worth having."

    One termer.

    We're coming.



    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Is part of congress not caring, when Mitch McConnel took the liar n chief at his word and invited him up, only to be publicly snubed, and Obama fly off to Philly to campaign? Yeah ok...


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    Re: Obama Hammers Congress: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Cool. Where are they mentioned in the Constitution ... I'd like to see it.
    Check Article 2, Section 2, Clause 1 to see how the Constitution authorizes Cabinet departments. Final details are then left up to Congress and the President about what the actual departments will be.

    For the Federal Reserve, look at the same clause that Alexander Hamilton used to defend the constitutionality of the Bank of the United States, and that is Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution.

    What makes the Departments of Treasury, State, and Defense (previously War) constitutional?

    If you believe the two departments you mentioned are unconstitutional, then all departments are unconstitutional. By that logic the United States has not followed the Constitution before even the Bill of Rights were added to it.

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    Re: Obama Hammers Congress: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    But it DOES require us to honor ALL debt that we have incurred. If Congress violates that provision, then the president has a good case to do it himself. Call it the Executive branch acting on a national emergency.
    That's a bright idea, let the President over step his Constitutional boundaries to "deal with" an Emergency...

    The HOUSE creates the budget, the Senate approves it, he signs it. The Senate and the WH have made it clear they won't sign anything that doesn't have deficit spending and tax hikes. The HOUSE has said "we won't do that".
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Obama Hammers Congress: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by Amazed View Post
    The Bamsters response..."It's not a conversation worth having."

    One termer.

    We're coming.
    Oh yeah, I know...Obama doesnt want to hear anything that he disagrees with. Even if that means he purposely is responsible for destroying this country. That just helps along his ultimate plan I think...


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    Re: Obama Hammers Congress: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    That's a bright idea, let the President over step his Constitutional boundaries to "deal with" an Emergency...

    The HOUSE creates the budget, the Senate approves it, he signs it. The Senate and the WH have made it clear they won't sign anything that doesn't have deficit spending and tax hikes. The HOUSE has said "we won't do that".
    Now that I know how their stance will end up, I feel much better about them showing their collective ass.

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    Re: Obama Hammers Congress: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    That's a bright idea, let the President over step his Constitutional boundaries to "deal with" an Emergency...

    The HOUSE creates the budget, the Senate approves it, he signs it. The Senate and the WH have made it clear they won't sign anything that doesn't have deficit spending and tax hikes. The HOUSE has said "we won't do that".
    Then the House is breaking the law.
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