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    Re: Chris Hansen Caught Cheating on Wife

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Let me add that it's not entrapment when someone sets up a trap, but does not make the first move.
    No, that's not true. In criminal law, entrapment is constituted by a law enforcement agent inducing a person to commit an offense that the person would otherwise have been unlikely to commit. If some douchebag was going to sit at home and get his rocks off, but instead is enticed over and subsequently arrested for different crimes; that's entrapment. If they enable and encourage the crime, and here they do. That's the real issue. Now in terms of actual action in real life, there won't be any. I don't think we punish entrapment anymore. And as for civilians, typically yes. But something like what Hansen was doing, no. It was specifically designed to get people arrested. In that case, they are acting the part of authority. Otherwise any restriction on the police or government can be overcome by getting a "civilian" to go out and do the dirty work for them. And that's clearly not within the spirit of the law. Because entrapment laws were made to protect us from entrapment, from ending up in front of a judge because they got convinced to do a crime.

    In something as highly coordinated with law enforcement as To Catch A Predator, I see no reason why we should consider Hansen and his crew "civilians".
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    Re: Chris Hansen Caught Cheating on Wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yes, but it is specifically coordinated with police. So it should be considered the same. Since it's still essentially a government trap.
    Basically they inform the police that they believe a crime is about to be committed and that they might want to be there.

    I have qualms with how many things are done but when kids are involved I'm generally willing to give the benefit of the doubt. To the original topic, Hansen is a jerk for getting himself into this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Basically they inform the police that they believe a crime is about to be committed and that they might want to be there.

    I have qualms with how many things are done but when kids are involved I'm generally willing to give the benefit of the doubt. To the original topic, Hansen is a jerk for getting himself into this.
    Kids aren't really involved though, beyond maybe a kid's voice to lure people inside the house. The cops are lying in wait outside. It's all a set up. We have rules and regulations, I think maybe we should follow them correctly.
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    Re: Chris Hansen Caught Cheating on Wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Kids aren't really involved though, beyond maybe a kid's voice to lure people inside the house. The cops are lying in wait outside. It's all a set up. We have rules and regulations, I think maybe we should follow them correctly.


    If you have the desire and the drive to follow through with an underage meetup... Dood in police work they call that a clue.


    And no its not just a voice in a house. Its pages and pages of aggressive encounters by thes sick ****s on chat rooms etc before a meet is ever set up.

    As a libertarian i have no problem with bait and trapping of savages.
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    Re: Chris Hansen Caught Cheating on Wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Kids aren't really involved though, beyond maybe a kid's voice to lure people inside the house. The cops are lying in wait outside. It's all a set up. We have rules and regulations, I think maybe we should follow them correctly.
    I don't know that they aren't. Yours is just speculation.

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    Facts:
    - The show To Catch a Predator has not led to a single conviction.
    - The police did not conduct an investigation, they let a group called "Perverted Justice" give them information.
    - The District Attorneys of the states where To Catch A Predator has operated in have been unable to get a single conviction.

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    To Catch A Predator/the local police departments that have collaborated with Perverted Justice should be sued by every single one of the men whose lives have been ruined under clearly weak investigations.
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    Re: Chris Hansen Caught Cheating on Wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I think the system lost track of the legal definition of entrapment long ago. Either or, these set up "gotcha" **** by government goons ain't good. Sure they may be going after a group you don't like now. But bigger, more powerful government is rarely a good thing.
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    Re: Chris Hansen Caught Cheating on Wife

    Who cares?

    She isn't 12.
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    Re: Chris Hansen Caught Cheating on Wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    ^^^This is why you can't reason with libertarians. They'll even defend pedophiles. Unbelievable.
    What's unbelievable to me is that you'd rather use this issue to take a cheap shot at libertarians than concern yourself with the substance of the arguments either way.
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