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    Re: Federal appeals court rules health care reform bill is constitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    It's completely immaterial at this point.
    Things can be immaterial and also interesting.
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    Re: Federal appeals court rules health care reform bill is constitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I really think this entire process is pointles as its obviously destined for the SCOTUS and anything before it is going to be, relatively, irrelevant.

    I actually think we could save ourselves some money if we instituted some method in which a super-majority of justices (7 out of 9 I'd say) could choose to elevate a case directly to the Supreme Court. That way issues like this could just get to their obvious and inevitable final location rather than wasting money and time going through the motion and show of the lower courts.
    I think that would offend some legal esotericism of some sort.

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    Re: Federal appeals court rules health care reform bill is constitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    It's completely immaterial at this point.
    why would you say that? i agree with you that it will be kicked up to the high court, but don't you find it interesting that a 'conservative' majority court agrees with the President, democrats?

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    Re: Federal appeals court rules health care reform bill is constitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    why would you say that? i agree with you that it will be kicked up to the high court, but don't you find it interesting that a 'conservative' majority court agrees with the President, democrats?
    It only interest you because two "conservatives" backed the government position at this level of the appeal process, had they struck it down, you'd of dismissed it. Be interested in it, it means very little.
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    Re: Federal appeals court rules health care reform bill is constitutional

    "Different from other forms of commerce"

    If you follow that line of logic and precedence you can then do the same with food, shelter and clothing...and then automobiles, insurance of any type, etc etc.

    Congress doesnt know how to back off of a line of thinking, its up to the courts to tell them.

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    Re: Federal appeals court rules health care reform bill is constitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    It only interest you because two "conservatives" backed the government position at this level of the appeal process, had they struck it down, you'd of dismissed it. Be interested in it, it means very little.
    yes, it interests me that two 'conservatives' backed the government posistion, why do you dismiss the importance of this? is it 'damage control' on the part of conservatives? try and sweep it under the rug?

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    Re: Federal appeals court rules health care reform bill is constitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    "Different from other forms of commerce"

    If you follow that line of logic and precedence you can then do the same with food, shelter and clothing...and then automobiles, insurance of any type, etc etc.

    Congress doesnt know how to back off of a line of thinking, its up to the courts to tell them.
    Exactly, and if this law stands as Constitutional after hitting SCOTUS... that's ball game, time to pack it up and bury the constitution. Scary Hyperbole? Not really, reality check. Your ability to decide what's best for you, just to exist as a person in this country will have been forever trashed. The people that support that have earned my most deepest, and utter contempt. Freedom and Liberty cannot exist in this country while the Congress has such power, and they will use it in other areas of our lives the moment this is deemed "Constitutional"
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    Re: Federal appeals court rules health care reform bill is constitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    a bush appointee, a reagan appointee, and a carter appointee...2 conservatives, 1 liberal...thoughts from the conservatives here?
    Yeah, I have a thought....so what....It's going to the SC. Are we to have these same threads every time a liberal, or conservative is happy with a lower courts decision?

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    Re: Federal appeals court rules health care reform bill is constitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yeah, I have a thought....so what....It's going to the SC. Are we to have these same threads every time a liberal, or conservative is happy with a lower courts decision?

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    don't like the thread, don't like the topic? don't post in it/read it....no one is forcing you j......it is a thread dealing with an issue that both partys are fighting tooth and nail over. so yes, everytime i find a story about it, i will post it.

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    Re: Federal appeals court rules health care reform bill is constitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    yes, it interests me that two 'conservatives' backed the government posistion, why do you dismiss the importance of this? is it 'damage control' on the part of conservatives? try and sweep it under the rug?
    It's called dismissing the irrelevant. What's to sweep under the rug? It's going to the SCOTUS... so does it matter really what this ruling was, either way?
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