• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

North Korea shuts down universities for 10 months

Renae

Banned
Suspended
DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 26, 2007
Messages
50,241
Reaction score
19,243
Location
San Antonio Texas
Gender
Female
Political Leaning
Conservative
North Korea shuts down universities for 10 months
North Korea has shut down its universities for the next 10 months and sent students to work in factories, agriculture and the construction sector as it struggles to rebuild its economy.

Pyongyang has told the North Korean people that the nation will have achieved its aim of becoming "a great, prosperous and powerful nation" in 2012, which marks the 100th anniversary of the founder of the reclusive state, Kim Il-sung.
North Korea shuts down universities for 10 months - Telegraph
The beginning of the end?
 
I am always astonished that self centered people like Castro, and Kim Jong Sicko don't stop to think about what history and even people today would say about them if they did the right thing by their people, and sat aside the political nonsense long enough to be a hero to the people, who are now suffering because of their bone headed policies and actions.

If Kim would set aside the past and his aspirations for the future for at least a short time and reached out to the USA with a conciliatory speech about putting his people ahead of politics and ideology he could become the savior and hero over night.

By continuing on the path he has chosen he is creating resentment and hate that with a little push and some support from say a real leader here might be able to promote revolt that could overthrow Kim and reunite North and South Korea.

So if Obama were really wanting to help people of the world as he has claimed about Libya he'd find a way to help the people of the North.

Hell he could be the one to swallow his phony pride and reach out and use a little brain matter to tell Kim they need to fore go the usual political bickering and call a political truss for the good of the people and find a way to feed them and in doing so Obama could become a hero making a subtle push for Kim's overthrow much easier in the future with a healthier population.

It might also open a dialog with Kim in which what i just suggested could be floated playing to Kim's ego.

But all of this takes thought and Kim and Obama are incapable of doing.

Just the thoughts of an old guy.
 
I am always astonished that self centered people like Castro, and Kim Jong Sicko don't stop to think about what history and even people today would say about them if they did the right thing by their people, and sat aside the political nonsense long enough to be a hero to the people, who are now suffering because of their bone headed policies and actions.

If Kim would set aside the past and his aspirations for the future for at least a short time and reached out to the USA with a conciliatory speech about putting his people ahead of politics and ideology he could become the savior and hero over night.

By continuing on the path he has chosen he is creating resentment and hate that with a little push and some support from say a real leader here might be able to promote revolt that could overthrow Kim and reunite North and South Korea.

So if Obama were really wanting to help people of the world as he has claimed about Libya he'd find a way to help the people of the North.

Hell he could be the one to swallow his phony pride and reach out and use a little brain matter to tell Kim they need to fore go the usual political bickering and call a political truss for the good of the people and find a way to feed them and in doing so Obama could become a hero making a subtle push for Kim's overthrow much easier in the future with a healthier population.

It might also open a dialog with Kim in which what i just suggested could be floated playing to Kim's ego.

But all of this takes thought and Kim and Obama are incapable of doing.

Just the thoughts of an old guy.

Did you seriously just compare KJI to Obama?

You almost had a reasonable post going there, too. Too bad. Better luck next time.
 
Something similar happened in China towards the end of the Cultural Revolution. Students were sent into the factories and fields to prevent them from fomenting opposition to the government. Something similar could be happening here; I don't see any other reason why the government would do that when they have a massive army that could be (and probably normally would be) working on these projects.
 
Did you seriously just compare KJI to Obama?

You almost had a reasonable post going there, too. Too bad. Better luck next time.

You really have a problem with reading comprehension don't you. Where did I compare the two?

What I said and made it clear they both have an opportunity to improve their lot in the eyes of the world.

Man you haters will stop at nothing to try to make others look bad but in the process you come off the fool most of the time.

Here is where I will compare them.

Neither one has the brains needed to see what would help at this point.

There now you can be happy with yourself.
 
Last edited:
Maybe the schools were like american schools? I say shut them down.
 
You really have a problem with reading comprehension don't you. Where did I compare the two?

What I said and made it clear they both have an opportunity to improve their lot in the eyes of the world.

Man you haters will stop at nothing to try to make others look bad but in the process you come off the fool most of the time.

Here is where I will compare them.

Neither one has the brains needed to see what would help at this point.

There now you can be happy with yourself.

You did this already.
But all of this takes thought and Kim and Obama are incapable of doing.
 
Something similar happened in China towards the end of the Cultural Revolution. Students were sent into the factories and fields to prevent them from fomenting opposition to the government. Something similar could be happening here; I don't see any other reason why the government would do that when they have a massive army that could be (and probably normally would be) working on these projects.
You may be right. Or it may just be a blunder.

It's a serious waste of resources to send these people off to do things other than what they had been in school to learn to do. That's a large opportunity cost that's being incurred for some reason or other.
 
Did you seriously just compare KJI to Obama?

You almost had a reasonable post going there, too. Too bad. Better luck next time.

I didn't get that he was comparing them. I thought he was talking about Obama's obligation in relation to Jong-Il's inability to take care of his people.
 
You did this already.

Well I'll be damned you passed the test you do have some reading comprehension skills, which means all you need to do is learn that Obama is not the genius you seem to to think he is or he wood think past appeasing Islamic Radicals and defending racists.

As far as I am concerned if he isn't willing to use his supposed intelligence to save lives and stabilize an unstable relationship with a dangerous maniac he's no better than the nut.

But that's just my opinion, and you're not stupid.
 
Last edited:
Juiposa said:
Hopefully, NK needs to hurry up and die.

The collapse of the North Korean state will be disastrous for the citizenry, regardless of the state's current role and actions.
 
Did you seriously just compare KJI to Obama?

You almost had a reasonable post going there, too. Too bad. Better luck next time.

He even attempted to compare Castro and KJI... I mean come on... Castro is (in American eyes mostly) bad, but where on earth does he have death camps and are his people starving? The only persons that KJI can be compared to is his father, the people who ran the cultural revolution in China, Pol Pot and Nazi Germany....I would not even compare KJI to Saddam ... would be an insult to Saddam.
 
He even attempted to compare Castro and KJI... I mean come on... Castro is (in American eyes mostly) bad, but where on earth does he have death camps and are his people starving? The only persons that KJI can be compared to is his father, the people who ran the cultural revolution in China, Pol Pot and Nazi Germany....I would not even compare KJI to Saddam ... would be an insult to Saddam.

Are you kidding? Most families (4+) get 1 pound of meat a month rationed to them by the cuban government. They don't product enough coffee to meet the needs of the citizens, let alone enough to sell on export (as Castro originally planned). Rice, milk, and pretty much every other food item is strictly rationed.
 
nk takes stupid internal actions

reich wing insists it is Obama's fault

got it
 
nk takes stupid internal actions

reich wing insists it is Obama's fault

got it

Not sure where you're getting that. The only thing I'm reading is one person saying that Obama has an obligation to do something about it. I don't see anybody saying Obama is responsible for Jong-Il's decisions. And I definitely don't see a mass rush of right-wing posters coming in here to join the chant.
 

Rather than an indication of an imminent collapse of North Korea's communist regime, this is probably more likely a "re-education" or "purification" drive to preempt opposition that might arise on account of North Korea's evolving famine. The problem with dictators such as Kim Jong-il is that they see their ideology/their political course as infallible. They are willing to impose extreme hardship on their own people so as to sustain their ideological course. So long as North Korea remains a centrally planned and largely isolated society, it won't find prosperity. Its people will continue to alternate between limited growth and struggle for survival/famine. That North Korea's communist regime adopted the unique (for a communist society) attribute of family succession, does not render the inherent flaws of communism irrelevant.

China ultimately concluded that markets were key to prosperity and rationalized a market economy within a socialist framework under "Chinese characteristics." The Kim regime has shown little willingness to embrace markets. It has initiated some timid experiments that were so conditional that they were essentially stillborn. Even the success of its largest patron has not altered its approach.
 
Back
Top Bottom