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    Vet Checks Wrong Box, Faces Charges

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    JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- Elisha Dawkins graduated in August from nursing school in Jacksonville.
    He put on hold his plans for taking the board exams because the Navy called him into action as a photographer.
    Dawkins photographed happenings at Guantanamo Bay, an act that's evidence he's a trusted member of the military with top secret clearance.
    Now, Dawkins, a Navy reservist and decorated Army combat photographer who served in Iraq, is in jail, charged with passport fraud. He's facing 10 years in prison for what could be a simple misunderstanding.
    "Suddenly, he's picked up and thrown in jail? Then it's time for this senator to start asking questions," U.S. Sen. Bill Nelson., D-Fla., said.
    Nelson has questions echoed by Dawkins' friends, including Dianne Rinehardt.Elisha Dawkins served with the Army in Iraq.

    "It's a travesty, and we're trying to stop it," Rinehardt said.
    Rinehardt went through nursing school with Dawkins and is a veteran herself. She's upset about the trouble her friend is in. In sharing his story with other vets, Rinehardt said that lots of people who don't know Dawkins can't believe it.
    "We're all appalled that, how can you serve this country and be more dedicated to the ideals of this country, and serve this country and then be told, 'Guess what, you made a little clerical error. You're out of here.' And that's a travesty," Rinehardt said.
    A federal indictment states that Dawkins started to fill out a passport application in 2004, didn't complete it, then filled out a new application two years later.
    On that new application, he checked a box "no" for the question, "Have you ever applied before?" according to the indictment.
    So who's going to defend the Obama administration on this? If Obama doesn't fix this today, he isn't worth a ****.

    Decorated Iraq War Veteran Elisha Dawkins Sits in Miami Jail for Lying on Passport Application - Miami News - Riptide 2.0

    Immigration officials incarcerate Iraq War vet over a passport | Homeland Security News Wire

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    Re: Vet Checks Wrong Box, Faces Charges

    for this they jail someone. Enter the country illegally..............

    I'm just sayin.

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    Re: Vet Checks Wrong Box, Faces Charges

    It's bureaucracy. Could have happened under any other President, and just like any President Obama will, any other President would have just fixed it.

    Before someone "defends" the administration, someone would actually have to accuse them of something.

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    Re: Vet Checks Wrong Box, Faces Charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    for this they jail someone. Enter the country illegally..............
    Jail's expensive. Why do you think illegal immigrants should just be allowed to come into this country and get free jail?

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    Re: Vet Checks Wrong Box, Faces Charges

    ok - well, the author proposes that he 'checked the wrong box by mistake' - meaning that he meant to check 'yes' and instead he accidentally checked 'no.

    When realy what happened is this:

    A question on the form asked if he'd ever applied for a passport before. He checked no. That wasn't entirely true. He had begun an application for a passport before deploying to Iraq but never finished the process. That single check on a box is why he now sits behind bars.
    A thought process occured - not a simple "oops!" - he didn't realize that an incomplete application is still considered *an actual application worthy of a 'yes'*

    Regardless - this entire thing is most certainly NOT a deal to be tossed in the clink over.

    Surprised it hasn't come up before - I'm sure he's not the only person on earth whose partially completed an application - leaving one in the middle of the fence on 'yes or no' - maybe they need to ammend their application questionare to say "yes, no, partially"

    Ok - so that's one part. . .the no bi gdeal part.

    This part is something I'm EXTREMELY disturbed by:
    Prosecutors aren't sure how Dawkins received a social security number or was able to obtain documents to prove his citizenship in the first place. His lawyer, however, claims he was raised to believe he was a citizen and did not intentionally try to dupe the armed forces.
    So - no one knows just now he received a social security number or obtained documents to prove his citizenship? And why the **** not? If the government can keep track of an imcomplete passport application then can't they keep track of other things - last I looked getting a SSN wasn't quick and simple.

    So - he's either a legal citizen victim of an incapable government system.
    Or an illegal whose been busted.

    Maybe they need ot figure it out, eh?
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    Re: Vet Checks Wrong Box, Faces Charges

    If he could just claim to be a confused Muslim Obama would have him out in a heart beat.

    This is BS in the first degree, besides if he didnt' finish the first one, it makes the last one the first and only one in my book.

    Everyone send Obama a copy of the OP news story and your opinion that Obama needs to intervene for this young hero.

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    Re: Vet Checks Wrong Box, Faces Charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    for this they jail someone. Enter the country illegally..............

    I'm just sayin.
    I'm not sure what you're saying.
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    Re: Vet Checks Wrong Box, Faces Charges

    What's this gotta do with Obama? It's just a bureaucratic ****up.
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    Re: Vet Checks Wrong Box, Faces Charges

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I'm not sure what you're saying.
    translation, illegals don't get jailed, but this guy does?
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Vet Checks Wrong Box, Faces Charges

    Dawkins first arrived in the United States with his mother from the Bahamas as an infant. His mother was eventually deported and he was raised by his relatives in Miami told him he was an American citizen.

    Contrarily immigration officials do not consider Dawkins an American and in 1992 issued a deportation order for Dawkins when he was eight years old.

    The Army and Navy never disputed his immigration status in his seven years of service and even awarded him secret security clearance.

    “The military believes he’s an American citizen,” said Clark Mervis, Dawkins’s lawyer.

    After high school, Dawkins enlisted in the Army with a birth certificate issued by the State of Florida a few months earlier. The birth certificate was issued after his birth so the state used medical records, school transcripts, and his Social Security number to verify his birth in October 1984. It is unclear where he obtained a Social Security number.
    Maybe if he is pardoned it will show that infiltrating the US armed forced is a clear path to citizenship.

    Sends the wrong message IMO.
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