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Cain: Stewart Impression Shows 'Problem' With Black Conservatives, But Not Racist

Whovian said:
Did any conservative ever say 'Oh, by the way... he's black!' like Obama claimed they would during the election? Did any conservative ever say 'He doesn't look like the other Presidents on those dollars', like Obama claimed they would?

Face it. Liberals play the race card way more than conservatives do... especially if a conservative dares to say something negative about Obama himself or one of his decisions or policies.
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I have heard many say very racist things during the election in private, but many people have learned not to speak their private feelings about race in public. Never on this forum or in a public venue though. However, this does not mean that racism doesn't exist or that it does not motivate behavior. It just means that society has shouted racists down, so people hide it. If that is what you are asking.

However, overall, the very fact that Cain is gaining popularity means that racism as a concern in politics is waning. This is a good sign for the progression of society. But, this is also irrelevant in the sense that racism has not been completely purged from people's hearts (it will probably be a couple more generations before enough people die off before it is truly no longer an issue). In the end, because its an issue that is not uniform to one party or demographic, I think both liberals and conservatives are correct in their protests, but are talking past each other.

So, in the end, I am forced to conclude this accusation is a hit piece (and I did another similar hit piece to show the same mistake in another poster's thinking, so I am not above sullying myself either) that is knowingly dishonest, but probably makes people feel good emotionally, so it will continue.
 
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liblady said:
you could be right........but i have to say i think it's pretty hilarious that republicans are playing the race card. do you watch stewart? he mimics whomever he can, including obama.
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It's not playing the race card, it showing how the left believes that blacks belong to them. Conservatives are not allowed to have a black candidate because it doesn't fit the political template. I mean it's not suppose to happen that way. How many lefties think conservative blacks are Uncle Toms? I'll bet a whole lot.

Conservatives blacks are obviously fake blacks....they don't understand the black experience. :roll:
 
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American said:
It's not playing the race card, it showing how the left believes that blacks belong to them. Conservatives are not allowed to have a black candidate because it doesn't fit the political template. I mean it's not suppose to happen that way. How many lefties think conservative blacks are Uncle Toms? I'll bet a whole lot.

Conservatives blacks are obviously fake blacks....they don't understand the black experience. :roll:
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It's 100% playing the race card or being completely ignorant about either Stewart or what racism is. Take your pick because nothing in Stewart's impression even suggests racism. What he did to Cain is what he does to every single politician, Democrat and Republican.
 
Objective Voice said:
I want to make it clear and go on record as stating, "I voted for Barack H. Obama, Jr., first and foremost because I believed him to be credible AND because I believed he would tackle many of the problems this country faces that have not been dealt with in the past. I also voted for him because he was the only Black candidate I've known of in recent history who I believed not only could actually win the Presidency, but also because I believed he was deserving of the change. And I'll vote for him again because I believe he has done as good a job as can be expected considering all the problems this country has faced in the 2 short years he's been in office."

Now, that I've got that out there, let's NOT turn this into another Barack Obama thread.
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i voted for him because he was black.
 
Zyphlin said:
I think 9 out of 10 times this is the biggest example of pulling the race card that the left tends to do with this President, because they refuse to look at context and just go "MONKEY BLACK MAN RACIST" despite the fact that the majority of times I've seen it done its specifically as a poke and nod to the fact that Bush was depicted that way for 8 years because he had big ears and was dumb and people feel Obama's got big ears and dumb so they do it as both representing that and because they know it'll piss liberals off when they hypocritical go "OMG THAT MUST BE RACIST!"

There's been far more times where I've seen liberals pathetically and wrongly pull the race card with the Obama/Monkey thing then I've seen honest to goodness racism from the right with it.



Of course some of it is. And some of the support for obama is racist in nature as well. Support simply because "he's a black man and not whitey". However, in all reality, its relatively small on both sides. Its one thing to ignore that racism exists, its another thing to harp on it so much to make it seem...intentionally or not...that its a major thing and then when called on it whine and go "no no, I don't mean its big, I just think its a PART of it....."

No **** its a part of it, there's not been an election in the past 30 years that racist views played into the votes for one candidate or another. That doesn't mean its something that should be focused or talked about nearly as much as it is.
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ok...let's leave aside the monkey thing......there have still been other instances, very clearly racist, and people have lost their jobs because of it. now, the op was originated by a republican playing the race card........which i found pretty funny, as liberals have been blasted for the same behavior. that was the extent of my original response.

the racism FOR obama is not something i have had personal contact with, although i'm sure it exists. personally, i thought electing obama would help ease some of the racism that exists in our country. instead, it's brought it to the forefront. it's emboldened elected officials to the point where they send racist e-mails......police, mayors, etc. i think that's part of the reason liberals are ultra sensitive, rightly or wrongly.

for my part, i suppose i am a little defensive. on my husband's side of the family, there are closet, and not so closet racists. that has never been as apparent as it now. these are business owning, educated people. not on my side. i really was raised to be colorblind, and i really AM offended by racist comments.
 
theplaydrive said:
Yep, I'm still waiting for some people to get that correlation!= causation.
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The way I witness it, correlation always equals causation when it favors the person partisans like, and never does when it condemns them. And of course the inverse is true for those partisans dislike.
 
liblady said:
ok...let's leave aside the monkey thing......there have still been other instances, very clearly racist, and people have lost their jobs because of it. now, the op was originated by a republican playing the race card........which i found pretty funny, as liberals have been blasted for the same behavior. that was the extent of my original response.

the racism FOR obama is not something i have had personal contact with, although i'm sure it exists. personally, i thought electing obama would help ease some of the racism that exists in our country. instead, it's brought it to the forefront. it's emboldened elected officials to the point where they send racist e-mails......police, mayors, etc. i think that's part of the reason liberals are ultra sensitive, rightly or wrongly.

for my part, i suppose i am a little defensive. on my husband's side of the family, there are closet, and not so closet racists. that has never been as apparent as it now. these are business owning, educated people. not on my side. i really was raised to be colorblind, and i really AM offended by racist comments.
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Until now, all the cries of racism have come from the left. They've even been caught manufacturing it themselves. Racism is not as prevalent as you are making it out to be.
 
liblady said:
you could be right........but i have to say i think it's pretty hilarious that republicans are playing the race card. do you watch stewart? he mimics whomever he can, including obama.
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Has he ever black faced Obama? Probably not, huh?
 
liblady said:
i find that the most bitching, and dismissing, about "the race card" comes from republicans. so i do love it when you guys whine, as oscar says, like crybabies.
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I find it absolutely amazing to hear Libbos cry about the, "race card". :rofl
 
liblady said:
some republicans have no sense of humor, clearly. and i do believe you'll find that liberals are, in general, better educated than republicans. so take your mental acuity and .............well, use your imagination.
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Libbos prove that education and intelligence aren't always the same thing.
 
liblady said:
um.......i believe i said better educated. oh, and more wealthy. should i also post stats about conservative states? they trend poorer and less educated, in case you weren't aware. that certainly does not mean one republican is less educated than one liberal, but on the whole, well, you get the point.

i could say anything , as oscar and others do, so what's the point? my sources, (and there are many more) are my proof. personally, i have not claimed to be better educated than anyone here, that i recall. are you as proficient at avoidance as oscar?
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Red states usually trend more racially diverse, as well. What are you getting at, exactly?
 
I made a point before that Stewart does impressions that all walks of life could find offensive. Stewart working for a comedy channel (called Comedy Central dur) definitely makes sure Fox News (which is supposed to be a news channel dur) look like a bunch of assholes by nailing it into their ****ing head that he is just a witty clown. So here it is your moment of zen:

[video]http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-june-28-2011/oh--for-fox-sake---who-s-the-biggest-a--hole-[/video]
 
Hugh_Akston said:
Until now, all the cries of racism have come from the left. They've even been caught manufacturing it themselves. Racism is not as prevalent as you are making it out to be.
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Comments like these are why the Republican Party sucks so hard at getting minority votes.
 
apdst said:
It's more because there are alot of ignorant people out there.
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No, it's because comments like those illustrate the pattern in the Republican Party of denying the amount of racism that still exists in this country.
 
theplaydrive said:
No, it's because comments like those illustrate the pattern in the Republican Party of denying the amount of racism that still exists in this country.
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no it's because replies to comments like those illustrate that no matter what the Republican Party does, there will be retards crying racism.
 
OscarB63 said:
no it's because replies to comments like those illustrate that no matter what the Republican Party does, there will be retards crying racism.
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Sarah Palin will not like you using the word "retard".
 
OscarB63 said:
no it's because replies to comments like those illustrate that no matter what the Republican Party does, there will be retards crying racism.
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you mean like the conservative Republican retards crying that Jon Stewart is racist for doing to Cain what he does to every politician?
 
Herman Cain, the New Sarah Palin. Whenever he is insulted and mocked for sounding like a complete buffoon, it's because he's black.
 
Hatuey said:
Herman Cain, the New Sarah Palin. Whenever he is insulted and mocked for sounding like a complete buffoon, it's because he's black.
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so he's the republican version of Obama. :thumbs:
 
VanceMack said:
You dont suppose that somewhere between 3 and 3000 (or 1800) we can find a happy medium where congressmen can actually be bothered to read and understand what they are voing on do you? Or that legislation that is passed to fund a $340 highway in Bum**** Indiana wont also contain 16 different hidden financial riders costing the taxpayers an additional few billion?
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You mean in the 9-months the nation debated on health care reform (w/revisions), Congress couldn't find the time to read it or have congressional aides review it and provide summary reports on it? That is how the process is suppose to work. So, whose fault is it that your Congressmen didn't do their homework and educate themselves on the proposed bill before it went before a vote?

Process...remember that word because it is exactly what the President was bashing Congress about in his speech yesterday. He's doing his job of which part of it as a leader is to delegate. Now, Congress needs to do theirs.
 
VanceMack said:
Dont believe the hype. The unemployment 'hovers' at 9.3 but thats only because people have been unemployed for so long they drop off the rolls. Those do not reflect anything even CLOSE to accurate unemployment figures.

Good thing no DEMOCRATS where in volved in creating this mess...its ALL the GOP.

Myopia is AWESOME...you get to pretend your **** doesnt stink...
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Did I say it was one party's fault? No! I eluded to the fact that domestically, GWB pretty much ignored what was happening in our nation's economy and did nothing to change things until it was too late. Never said it was the Democrats fault as a whole nor the Republicans. But as our nation's 43rd President, it was GWB's responsibility to engage his economic counsel, assess what was going on and do what was necessary to fix it. He failed to act! Hence, the mess we're in right now.

I'll say it again: If more people understood just how bad things were before TARP, before the auto bailouts, before the stimulus you wouldn't be so critical.

Two references worth repeating as required reading:

"The Promise: Pres. Obama, Year ONE," by Jonathan Alter

"Too Big to Fail: The Inside Story..." by Andrew Ross Sorkin (Note: There are approximate 3 books with this same main title; check the subtitles before purchasing)

If your really want to know the truth on both how bad things got and how the President and his Administration went about handling the situation(s), you owe it to yourself to read these books.
 
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