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    Re: Cain: Stewart Impression Shows 'Problem' With Black Conservatives, But Not Racist

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    Perhaps when you can discuss scientific studies on a reasonable and informed level then you can start throwing out insults to peoples intelligence and level of schooling. Until such a point, how about you stick to the topic and points rather than ridiculous dismissals and dodges like this? What do you say?
    perhaps when someone links a reasonable and informed study, I will.
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    Re: Cain: Stewart Impression Shows 'Problem' With Black Conservatives, But Not Racist

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    a sampling of 2,000 to represent 300,000,000 is what is bull****.




    IOW, you know I, a republican, am better educated and make more money than you, a liberal. .



    oh, boohoo.... wasn't it you, just a few posts ago crying about personal attacks? and yet when your back is up against the wall, what do you resort to? surprise, surprise.... a personal attack. too ****in funny
    that's cool, oscar, too bad money and education don't change crass to class.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Cain: Stewart Impression Shows 'Problem' With Black Conservatives, But Not Racist

    Quote Originally Posted by krickitt View Post
    Blue State Schools: The Shame of a Nation | Via Meadia

    Sorry, but Red states beat blue states in education... just saying, since someone brought it up.
    but...but...but.... waaaaaaaaah It can't be true. liberals claim to be better educated and make more money, and everyone knows that a liberal would never lie or misrepresent the truth.
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    Re: Cain: Stewart Impression Shows 'Problem' With Black Conservatives, But Not Racist

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    um.......i believe i said better educated. oh, and more wealthy. should i also post stats about conservative states? they trend poorer and less educated, in case you weren't aware. that certainly does not mean one republican is less educated than one liberal, but on the whole, well, you get the point.

    i could say anything , as oscar and others do, so what's the point? my sources, (and there are many more) are my proof. personally, i have not claimed to be better educated than anyone here, that i recall. are you as proficient at avoidance as oscar?

    Makers and Takers
    Peter Schweizer, a research fellow at the Hoover Institution, delineates the thesis of his fine study in his title: Makers and Takers: Why Conservatives Work Harder, Feel Happier, Have Closer Families, Take Fewer Drugs, Give More Generously, Value Honesty More, Are Less Materialistic and Envious, Whine Less . . . and Even Hug Their Children More than Liberals
    The allure of liberalism is easily explained: it enables one to occupy a moral high ground, to feel good about oneself, simply by demanding the government care for everyone. “Today’s liberalism is completely wrapped up with the notion of itself. The legacy of the sixties’ ‘if it feels good do it’ ethos is alive and well” (p. 31). One study of students in elite universities revealed that “those who were very liberal or radical tended to have a ‘narcissistic pathology,’ which included ‘grandiosity, envy, a lack of empathy, illusion of personal perfection, and a sense of entitlement’” (p. 41)
    When asked if “parents should sacrifice their own well-being for those of their children, those on the left were nearly twice as likely to say ‘no’ (28 percent to 15 percent) when compared to conservatives’” (p. 34). Echoing one of their paladins, Hillary Clinton, liberals insist child-rearing is a societal, not a parental endeavor. “Supporting government programs to ‘help the children’ is a convenient way for liberals to ‘love’ children without demanding anything of themselves’” (p. 40).
    Liberals do less good, quite frankly, because they are “more envious and less hardworking than conservatives” (p. 81). They routinely denounce the “greed” and “consumption” of conservatives, but in fact they (like Bill and Hillary Clinton) take advantage of every opportunity and institutional perk open to them in a capitalist culture. “Time after time, reputable surveys show that liberals are more interested in money, think about it more often, and value it more highly than conservatives” (p. 87). But whereas 80 percent of Republicans believe hard work and perseverance enable one to succeed, only “14 percent” of the Democrats surveyed thought “that people can get ahead by working hard” (p. 93).
    The mirage of liberal intelligence is magnified by their dominance in universities and media outlets, but “authoritative studies show that conservatives are actually better informed, more knowledgeable, and better educated than liberals” (p. 162)
    you should read this book.

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    Re: Cain: Stewart Impression Shows 'Problem' With Black Conservatives, But Not Racist

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    that's cool, oscar, too bad money and education don't change crass to class.
    and yet again, all you have is a personal attack
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    Re: Cain: Stewart Impression Shows 'Problem' With Black Conservatives, But Not Racist

    I think those of you calling this man racist should watch his shenanigans and know that you are in fact, as much of a fool as he is. Most recent example? His impression and criticisms of Obama last night.
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    Re: Cain: Stewart Impression Shows 'Problem' With Black Conservatives, But Not Racist

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    income, certainly that is none of our business. but education? Well, when you claim to be part of a group that you also claim is inherently smarter than another, you really should prove it.
    You do realize that there is a difference between saying a group is "inherently" smarter and saying that there are more educated people within the population of a group? One suggests that the group is somehow by virtue of being part of that group more intelligent. The other is suggesting that more people in one group happen to have more education.

    Nevermind the issue of attempting to equate "smarter" with "education" as some kind of synonymous statement. One can be smart while having little education, similarly one could have a great deal of education and yet still be rather dumb.

    For having a conniption fit about someone making a comment concerning the educational level of various groups, being snippy back at them while misusing educated and “smarter” interchangeably and comparing something “inherent” to something that people participate in seems to not help your argument much.

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    Re: Cain: Stewart Impression Shows 'Problem' With Black Conservatives, But Not Racist

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    One suggests that the group is somehow by virtue of being part of that group more intelligent. .
    which is what liblady was implying.
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    Re: Cain: Stewart Impression Shows 'Problem' With Black Conservatives, But Not Racist

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    perhaps when someone links a reasonable and informed study, I will.
    And considering you're issue with a Pew study is that they followed relatively standard protocols with a scientific poll, in that they captured a random sample size that is significantly smaller than the extremely large sample size being discussed, it shows that you seem to be severely lacking in your knowledge and education regarding how scientific polls work. At least it has assured me I will never once see you reference a poll unless the sample size is somehow close to 1:1 since your misguided, supposedly highly educated, opinion seemingly requires such to be "respectable".

    Oh wait, no I should use some common sense...

    You require a poll to be in favor of what you say for it to be respectable.

    Silly me, should've just used Occam's razor.

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    Re: Cain: Stewart Impression Shows 'Problem' With Black Conservatives, But Not Racist

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    perhaps when someone links a reasonable and informed study, I will.
    hmmm.....here's another one.........and i'm finished. you have posted nothing in refutation.

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    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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