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    Firefighters Beat Back Flames Near Nuclear Lab

    Firefighters in New Mexico struggled through Monday night to hold back a fierce blaze roaring out of control at the edge of the Los Alamos National Laboratory, a sprawling nuclear weapons complex that includes a plutonium facility.
    Firefighters beat back flames near nuclear lab | Reuters


    Latest reports (from a couple of my friends that stayed behind) is that there are pockets of fire as close as 1/4 mile from the houses in Northern Area.

    Northern Area sits beside 2 canyons, and is near the spot where the town was literally saved 10 years ago during the Cerro Grande Fire. 2 slurry bomber pilots made key drops (right as they were getting called back due to high winds), which kept the fire from entering Pueblo Canyon. Pueblo Canyon runs right along the entire townsite and it would have been devastating if the fire had entered it.

    Now we are facing the same thing again, but this time the fire is a little bit more pissed off it seems. Cerro Grande ended up burning 48,000 acres over 2 weeks and took 200+ homes. This one started at 1PM local time Sunday, and as of 5PM Monday, was already 46,000+ acres. That's 28 hours for those keeping score at home.

    I am evacuated and down at my home in Albuquerque. The winds here have been absolutely insane from about 7PM onward, and are just now starting to let up. There have been no choppers or bombers in the air since about 5PM. All we can hope for right now is that they are able to keep the fire from entering Pueblo Canyon. If it goes it will be a nightmare.

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    Re: Firefighters Beat Back Flames Near Nuclear Lab

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    Firefighters beat back flames near nuclear lab | Reuters


    Latest reports (from a couple of my friends that stayed behind) is that there are pockets of fire as close as 1/4 mile from the houses in Northern Area.

    Northern Area sits beside 2 canyons, and is near the spot where the town was literally saved 10 years ago during the Cerro Grande Fire. 2 slurry bomber pilots made key drops (right as they were getting called back due to high winds), which kept the fire from entering Pueblo Canyon. Pueblo Canyon runs right along the entire townsite and it would have been devastating if the fire had entered it.

    Now we are facing the same thing again, but this time the fire is a little bit more pissed off it seems. Cerro Grande ended up burning 48,000 acres over 2 weeks and took 200+ homes. This one started at 1PM local time Sunday, and as of 5PM Monday, was already 46,000+ acres. That's 28 hours for those keeping score at home.

    I am evacuated and down at my home in Albuquerque. The winds here have been absolutely insane from about 7PM onward, and are just now starting to let up. There have been no choppers or bombers in the air since about 5PM. All we can hope for right now is that they are able to keep the fire from entering Pueblo Canyon. If it goes it will be a nightmare.

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    Re: Firefighters Beat Back Flames Near Nuclear Lab

    There have been a lot of personal tragedies with all Homes that have burned. My heart goes out to those who lost everything, I know what it's like and leaves you in shock even though you can act normal it gets to you.

    If this fire is not kept away from the Laboratories it could cost tax payers a great deal to replace what might be lost.

    Those who do I ask you to pray not only for control of this fire but the ones in Arizona, and Texas as well and for those who are now facing an uncertain future.

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    I have good memories of visiting Los Alamos back in 1985... there was heavy snow on the ground and we went to some hot springs. While we were in them some deer walked right by us. It was kind of a surreal experience. Beautiful little city. What a shame. For the man that lives there-- do you think there is any danger from the nuke areas if the fires reach the labs, storage sites, etc? News says no, but who trusts MSM?? Best of luck to all of you in the area.
    My state, AZ, is on fire, too, and we are praying for the monsoons to start, but no rain in sight yet. Usually the rain starts some time in July-- if it bothers to come at all. At LEAST one of our fires was started by illegals, we think, as they started one in the same spot last year. Is there any evidence out there about how the Los Alamos fire started? Texas, AZ, NM.. sure seem to be lots of fires this year in the southwest border areas. Considering that some of the people that are coming across the border are Hamas and Hezbollah, and the terrible cost and chaos and devastation of all these fires, it makes me wonder..
    Good luck NM, AZ,and all the other states suffering flooding, etc. God bless the USA. Pray for rain in the SW.
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    I wonder if 505 has more information on the fire today? MSM is playing with this a bit more today. Also wonder why in the world such a place was built in a forest to start with?? Will they tell us if something bad happens? Took a while for the news to start coming out in Japan. These firefighters must be more worried than usual, which is bad enough.. Kind of scary..

    Towns Near N.M. Fire, Nuclear Lab Wary of Radioactive Smoke
    Published June 29, 2011
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    LOS ALAMOS, N.M. -- Residents downwind of a wildfire that is threatening the nation's premier nuclear-weapons laboratory are worried about the potential of a radioactive smoke plume if the flames reach thousands of barrels of waste stored in above-ground tents.
    "If it gets to this contamination, it's over -- not just for Los Alamos, but for Santa Fe and all of us in between," said Mai Ting, a resident who lives in the valley below the desert mesas that are home to the Los Alamos National Laboratory.
    Chris Valvarde, a resident of the Santa Clara Pueblo about 10 miles north of Los Alamos, questioned officials at a briefing Tuesday evening, asking whether they had evacuation plans for his community. Los Alamos, a town of 11,000, already sits empty after its residents were evacuated ahead of the blaze, which started Sunday.
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    "I know it's the worse scenario to think of," Valverde said. "But when the radiation leaks, are we prepared to get 2,000 people out?"
    Lab Director Charles McMillan said the barrels contain transuranic waste -- gloves, toolboxes, tools -- and other items that may have been contaminated through contact with radioactive materials. Top lab officials declined to say how many barrels were on site or how they are stored. An anti-nuclear group has estimated there could be up to 30,000 gallon-drums.
    Los Alamos County Fire Chief Doug Tucker, whose department is responsible for protecting the lab, said the barrels are stacked about three high inside of tents on lab property.
    The wildfire, which has swelled to nearly 95 square miles, has already sparked a spot fire at the lab. The fire Monday was quickly contained, and lab officials said no contamination was released.
    Top lab officials and fire managers said they're confident the flames won't reach key buildings or areas where radioactive waste is stored above-ground. Areas around those buildings have been cleared of vegetation and are surrounded by gravel or asphalt, they said. As a last resort, foam could be sprayed on the barrels to ensure they aren't damaged by fire, they added.
    The site's manager for the National Nuclear Security Administration said he evaluated the precautions and felt comfortable. The agency oversees the lab for the Department of Energy.
    "I have 170 people who validate their measures," Kevin Smith said. "They're in steel drums, on a concrete floor."
    Flames were just across the road from the southern edge of the famed lab, where scientists developed the first atomic bomb during World War II. The facility cut natural gas to some areas as a precaution. The lab will be closed through at least Thursday.
    The streets of Los Alamos were empty Tuesday, with the exception of emergency vehicles and National Guard Humvees. Homeowners who had left were prepared: propane bottles were placed at the front of driveways and cars were left in the middle of parking lots, away from anything flammable.
    The wildfire has destroyed 30 structures south and west of Los Alamos, for many stirring memories of a blaze in May 2000 that destroyed hundreds of homes and buildings in town.
    Favorable winds have helped firefighters, who were busy trying to keep the fire from moving off Pajarito Mountain to the west of Los Alamos and into two narrow canyons that descend into the town and the lab.
    "Everything is just so dry and ready to burn," Tucker said. "We need some rain. Snow would be nice." He added that even containment lines had dangerous smoldering stumps and burning roots that could easily ignite fires.
    An orange glow on the mountain could be seen from Los Alamos' deserted streets. Some residents who decided to wait out the fire weren't concerned, including Mark Smith, a chemical engineer who works at the lab.
    "The risk of exposure is so small. I wouldn't sit here and inhale plutonium. I may be crazy, but I'm not dumb," he said.
    The lab, which employs about 15,000 people, covers more than 36 square miles and includes about 2,000 buildings at nearly four dozen sites. They include research facilities, as well as waste disposal sites.
    Some facilities, including the administration building, are in Los Alamos, while others are miles from the town. Most of the buildings from the Manhattan Project that developed the first atomic bomb in the 1940s were built on what is now the town and are long gone. The spot fire Monday scorched a section known as Tech Area 49, which was used in the early 1960s for a series of underground tests with high explosives and radioactive materials.
    Lab spokesman Kevin Roark said environmental specialists were monitoring air quality, but the main concern was smoke. Lab personnel and the state environment department were monitoring the air for radioactivity and particulates. The state was also working to get additional ground-based monitors and an airborne monitor.
    The anti-nuclear watchdog group Concerned Citizens for Nuclear Safety said the fire appeared to be about 3.5 miles from a dumpsite where as many as 30,000 55-gallon drums of plutonium-contaminated waste were stored in fabric tents above ground.
    Lab spokeswoman Lisa Rosendorf said a section known as Area G holds drums of cleanup from Cold War-era waste that the lab sends away for storage in weekly shipments.


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    Re: Firefighters Beat Back Flames Near Nuclear Lab

    More news on the fire encroaching on the nuke site.. Scary.

    Los Alamos Fire: EPA Testing for Radiation - ABC News

    Video and lots of pics in link.
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    Very sad. I feel for the people with homes there. I'm thinking the focus will be on not letting the fire reach the nuke waste, rather than the homes. God bless Los Alamos, the surrounding areas, and the USA.
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    Re: Firefighters Beat Back Flames Near Nuclear Lab

    ewwwwwwwwwwww ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh what caused it huh? Rather WHO caused it. See what happens when you close your eyes to the enemy within?

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    Yeah.... downed power line... how easy it that to say....
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    Re: Firefighters Beat Back Flames Near Nuclear Lab

    For fires in the southwest a good source of information is the Southwest Coordination Center web site:
    This link goes direct to the Intelligence section page. It provides links to other national sites as well as incident information.

    Southwest Coordination Center (SWCC) Website

    Only good thing is the fires in AZ are starting to wind down, They can/will move resources from those fires to New Mexico. At least this time its not a prescribed burn that got away as in the past that took out homes in Los Alamos.
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