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    Re: Federal judge blocks Georgia immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    And immigration law is granted to the federal government
    "ICE, however, has limited resources to remove those illegally in the United States.,,,Because the agency is confronted with more administrative violations than its resources can address, the agency must regularly exercise "prosecutorial discretion" ifit is to prioritize its efforts"
    http://www.ice.gov/doclib/secure-com...etion-memo.pdf

    So when are the Feds going to wake up and ask the States for assistance? To keep claiming its "our" ie Feds job, but we are going to enforce only those parts we see fit, is letting the public down. So maybe the States should start suing the feds for not carrying out their duties. Or as stated, demand the federal law be changed to give States more authority.
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    Re: Federal judge blocks Georgia immigration law

    Because states do not have the proper training to deal with illegal immigrants. That's why you hear about racial profiling, etc.

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    Re: Federal judge blocks Georgia immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    Because states do not have the proper training to deal with illegal immigrants. That's why you hear about racial profiling, etc.
    Not true. Many LE in Az have been trained by ICE. Do you feel ICE (feds) are doing a good job in controlling immigration (legal and illegal?. Do you think the Feds should partner more with State LE on immigration?

    As far as profiling, imo thats a pc stance.
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    Re: Federal judge blocks Georgia immigration law

    As long as they have a working visa I dont see the problem. Any mexicans I see working fields have working visas. Laws have been created the past few years that makes sure they have to have them to work here.
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    Re: Federal judge blocks Georgia immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    "ICE, however, has limited resources to remove those illegally in the United States.,,,Because the agency is confronted with more administrative violations than its resources can address, the agency must regularly exercise "prosecutorial discretion" ifit is to prioritize its efforts"
    http://www.ice.gov/doclib/secure-com...etion-memo.pdf

    So when are the Feds going to wake up and ask the States for assistance? To keep claiming its "our" ie Feds job, but we are going to enforce only those parts we see fit, is letting the public down. So maybe the States should start suing the feds for not carrying out their duties. Or as stated, demand the federal law be changed to give States more authority.
    As I hinted at earlier, the courts will allow state action in this area if the states can make a compelling argument that the Feds have not occupied the field. I don't think any honest person can say that that argument is completely without merit.

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    Re: Federal judge blocks Georgia immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by RStringfield View Post
    As I hinted at earlier, the courts will allow state action in this area if the states can make a compelling argument that the Feds have not occupied the field. I don't think any honest person can say that that argument is completely without merit.
    If "not occupied the field" means that they have done diddly squat about illegal immigration, then anyone who has been awake knows that they haven't "occupied the field" in about sixty years now. It's time someone did something more than point fingers at the other party and rant about how we need to fence the southern border.

    Or, how we need to pass amnesty. That worked ever so well back in the '80s.
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    Re: Federal judge blocks Georgia immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    If "not occupied the field" means that they have done diddly squat about illegal immigration, then anyone who has been awake knows that they haven't "occupied the field" in about sixty years now. It's time someone did something more than point fingers at the other party and rant about how we need to fence the southern border.

    Or, how we need to pass amnesty. That worked ever so well back in the '80s.
    Occupy the field means they have taken action and have a comprehensive and pervasive plan. But that could mean the plan calls for open an easy immigration. It does not mean they have to stop immigration, but they have to state their position and act to achieve those goals.

    You can certainly argue that by not doing anything to stop an act that they have made illegal by law that they have abandoned the field.

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    Re: Federal judge blocks Georgia immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by RStringfield View Post
    Occupy the field means they have taken action and have a comprehensive and pervasive plan. But that could mean the plan calls for open an easy immigration. It does not mean they have to stop immigration, but they have to state their position and act to achieve those goals.

    You can certainly argue that by not doing anything to stop an act that they have made illegal by law that they have abandoned the field.
    They did pass laws, and "diddly squat" is generous when describing the actions taken to end illegal immigration.
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    Re: Federal judge blocks Georgia immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by RStringfield View Post
    Georgia is having lots of trouble due to the shortage of farm workers.

    Farmers tie labor shortage to state's new immigration law, ask for help *| ajc.com
    If farmers are having a labor shortage its because of two things. First is that farmers are not petitioning for work visas(Potential employees can not petition for agricultural/H2A visas, the employer must do this.). The second is that farmers are not paying a adequate(supply verses demand dictates that wages need to be much higher if they are having a hard time getting legal workers) wage to hire farm workers.

    Besides that it is illegal to hire illegals. Its like complaining that the drug dealer can't find any crack to sell or any junkies to buy their **** or whining because cops keep arresting them for selling drugs.
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    Re: Federal judge blocks Georgia immigration law

    When a judge does this without regard for the facts it really pisses me off.

    In this case Obama and those he controls are not enforcing the Laws on the books and because of that, every damn one of them is in violation of their oath of office by ignoring Article 4 Section 4 of the Constitution which clearly says in plain English:
    The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion; and on application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened) against domestic violence.
    They all need to be removed from office because the numbers of illgal aliens invading out Nation is over 100,000 a year and some are Islamic.
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