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    Re: Federal judge blocks Georgia immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by RStringfield View Post
    Georgia is having lots of trouble due to the shortage of farm workers.

    Farmers tie labor shortage to state's new immigration law, ask for help *| ajc.com
    I do not believe this for a second. The unemployment rate is 9.8% (in reality, likely higher). They may have problems finding people who will work 12 hour days for $5.00 an hour but if they truely need employee's they could find them.

    For the sake of arguement, *if* there truely was a shortage this would be a great oppertunity to put those on welfare to work.

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    Re: Federal judge blocks Georgia immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    I do not believe this for a second. The unemployment rate is 9.8% (in reality, likely higher). They may have problems finding people who will work 12 hour days for $5.00 an hour but if they truely need employee's they could find them.
    Denial, that's always a good strategy.


    For the sake of arguement, *if* there truely was a shortage this would be a great oppertunity to put those on welfare to work.
    That won't work either. They have tried working parolee and probationers but guess what? They found out farm labor sucks! Many of them won't stick with it for a full day.

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    Re: Federal judge blocks Georgia immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by RStringfield View Post
    Denial, that's always a good strategy.
    And yet you did nothing to refute my reasoning.

    That won't work either. They have tried working parolee and probationers but guess what? They found out farm labor sucks! Many of them won't stick with it for a full day.
    I didn't specify parolee and probationers but I do have some experience there and I know there are some that will indeed work these type of jobs to work off fines.

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    Re: Federal judge blocks Georgia immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    It's really not constitutional though... federal law = enforced by federal government. INA 287g would apply if the local/state had written permission from the federal government, then were trained accordingly by ICE, but since the states are not doing that, this is going to get thrown out. That is precisely the reason this law was blocked.
    The Tenth Amendment explicitly states the Constitution's principle of federalism by providing that powers not granted to the federal government nor prohibited to the states by the Constitution are reserved, respectively, to the states or the people.

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    Re: Federal judge blocks Georgia immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    The Tenth Amendment explicitly states the Constitution's principle of federalism by providing that powers not granted to the federal government nor prohibited to the states by the Constitution are reserved, respectively, to the states or the people.
    But ummmm, this is a power explicitly granted to the feds.

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    Re: Federal judge blocks Georgia immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    The Tenth Amendment explicitly states the Constitution's principle of federalism by providing that powers not granted to the federal government nor prohibited to the states by the Constitution are reserved, respectively, to the states or the people.
    And immigration law is granted to the federal government

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    Re: Federal judge blocks Georgia immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    And yet you did nothing to refute my reasoning.
    Reasoning? I posted a link to a story about the labor shortage and you said, "I don't believe it." You call that reasoning?

    I didn't specify parolee and probationers but I do have some experience there and I know there are some that will indeed work these type of jobs to work off fines.
    I specified parolees and probationers. They have tried and very few of them last more than a day. Farm labor sucks! You are not going to get welfare recipients to do this job either. Many of them are not fit enough to do it even if they wanted to and you can bet they damn sure don't.

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    Re: Federal judge blocks Georgia immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by RStringfield View Post
    Reasoning? I posted a link to a story about the labor shortage and you said, "I don't believe it." You call that reasoning?



    I specified parolees and probationers. They have tried and very few of them last more than a day. Farm labor sucks! You are not going to get welfare recipients to do this job either. Many of them are not fit enough to do it even if they wanted to and you can bet they damn sure don't.
    parolees and probationers. .. seems simple enough .. work these jobs or go back to jail for violating your probation or parole For those one welfare .. reduce their benefits for each day of missed worked ..
    doesn't seem all that complicated to me.

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    Re: Federal judge blocks Georgia immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    parolees and probationers. .. seems simple enough .. work these jobs or go back to jail for violating your probation or parole For those one welfare .. reduce their benefits for each day of missed worked ..
    doesn't seem all that complicated to me.
    Yeah, I remember that as part of the argument for stopping illegal immigration. You did not say, they are taking jobs Americans could be doing! You said, they are taking jobs we could force parolee and probationers to do. Virtual slavery and other great things could happen if we just get rid of the Mexi, uhh, illegal immigrants. But no, many of the parolee and probationers would rather go to jail.

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    Re: Federal judge blocks Georgia immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    And immigration law is granted to the federal government
    of course it is, but like I said the feds refuse to enforce the law which it is duly charge with doing so therefor the states can enforce federal law, write a new law applicable to the state etc.

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