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    Re: TSA stands by officers after pat-down of elderly woman in Florida

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Any Arab that passes through thier checkpoints get greater scrutiny than a jewish person.

    I would suggest that the Israeli's profile against anyone who is not an Israeli.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: TSA stands by officers after pat-down of elderly woman in Florida

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You're living in a dreamworld if you think the Israelis don't take physical features into their profiling process.
    No I'm not. You're living in a dreamworld if you think profiling arabs is a good way to secure an airport. Like I have said 100x in this thread and the other one, most terrorists are not, infact, Muslim. Do they profile people who aren't Israeli more? Sure, like the Daily News reporter said, he is a white Christian, and he gets taken out and given extra screening all the time. But is the bigoted right wing way of "Profile all arabs" the solution? No, and I've explained why 100 times.

    Vance, a lot are illegal aliens, that is correct. And many illegal aliens are infact associated with terrorism. Illegal weapons are also a big one.

    And again, they have infact caught people associated with terrorism and people on the TSC list. They do not disclose the people they caught nor what set off their capture. They aren't going to make a press release saying "Caught terror suspect today, was trying to bring X compound onto a plane and mix it with X household object to cause an explosion, glad we got him! You terrorists who try to use X compound again with X household object better not use them, so bring another one that's not yet in our system!"
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    Re: TSA stands by officers after pat-down of elderly woman in Florida

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    Try to bring a dangerous weapon on board a plane... I'd like to see what happens to you.

    No vance, you don't do that. But the point is - if you can save even one life by doing this, why do you have a problem with it? If going through a little inconviencne at the airport could save the life of an entire airplane, even if an attack will happen once a year, why do you have such an issue?

    As for the old women, here's one article from a quick google search: Tag: old woman drug smuggling - Rynski's Blogski

    I hear about it all the time from the IEAs who work near the borders though. They have these old women doing these things because they think no one will search them, like some of you would like.
    I have this cool little wallet credit card sized survival tool my grandkids got for me one year..



    I travelled with it for a year and a half. Considering connecting flights, Id say conservatively I flew on probably close to 30 planes during that year and a half. When i realized it, I had just left the luggage area on my home leg. I went to the TSA counter to make them aware of it. i STRESSED...I was not being a smart ass...just realized what i had done and that their screenings were missing this.

    A razor blade taped to the metal case of a hard drive or the hard case of a laptop can be fashioned into the same types of weapons used by the terrorists in 9-11. Thats all im saying.

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    Re: TSA stands by officers after pat-down of elderly woman in Florida

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I would suggest that the Israeli's profile against anyone who is not an Israeli.
    They profile against anyone that isn't a "stereotypical jewish" looking Israeli it seems, as it appears they even profile their arab sounding/looking Israeli's.

    I do find it funny that those who complain that TSA is an unreasonable search because its presuming you're guilty then turn around and go "What we should be doing is presuming all ARABS as being guilty and search just them".

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    Re: TSA stands by officers after pat-down of elderly woman in Florida

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    Try to bring a dangerous weapon on board a plane... I'd like to see what happens to you.

    No vance, you don't do that. But the point is - if you can save even one life by doing this, why do you have a problem with it? If going through a little inconviencne at the airport could save the life of an entire airplane, even if an attack will happen once a year, why do you have such an issue?

    As for the old women, here's one article from a quick google search: Tag: old woman drug smuggling - Rynski's Blogski

    I hear about it all the time from the IEAs who work near the borders though. They have these old women doing these things because they think no one will search them, like some of you would like.
    TSA is not in the crime and law enforcement business. Their job is to make flying 'more safe'. Meanwhile TSA agents and baggage handlers with full access to every part of the airport go unscreened daily.

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    Re: TSA stands by officers after pat-down of elderly woman in Florida

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    TSA stands by officers after pat-down of elderly woman in Florida - CNN.com

    This is ****ing sickening!

    Seriously what the ****!

    Forcing a 95 year old cancer patient grandmother to remove her adult diaper, i mean really!
    They could smuggle in some explosives or weapons in that adult diapers.(sarcasm).
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    Re: TSA stands by officers after pat-down of elderly woman in Florida

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    TSA is not in the crime and law enforcement business. Their job is to make flying 'more safe'. Meanwhile TSA agents and baggage handlers with full access to every part of the airport go unscreened daily.
    Kind of true... I was at JFK a few months ago and there was a wide open door leading past the security checkpoints and I identified myself and said one of you guys aught to close that and they all went scurrying over and closed it. Are they the smartest people? Of course not. But again, this is the best we can do. We don't have enough BDOs in America to be in every single airport in huge numbers.

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    Re: TSA stands by officers after pat-down of elderly woman in Florida

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    No I'm not. You're living in a dreamworld if you think profiling arabs is a good way to secure an airport. Like I have said 100x in this thread and the other one, most terrorists are not, infact, Muslim. Do they profile people who aren't Israeli more? Sure, like the Daily News reporter said, he is a white Christian, and he gets taken out and given extra screening all the time. But is the bigoted right wing way of "Profile all arabs" the solution? No, and I've explained why 100 times.

    Vance, a lot are illegal aliens, that is correct. And many illegal aliens are infact associated with terrorism. Illegal weapons are also a big one.

    And again, they have infact caught people associated with terrorism and people on the TSC list. They do not disclose the people they caught nor what set off their capture. They aren't going to make a press release saying "Caught terror suspect today, was trying to bring X compound onto a plane and mix it with X household object to cause an explosion, glad we got him! You terrorists who try to use X compound again with X household object better not use them, so bring another one that's not yet in our system!"
    So, strip searching a 95 y/o diaper wearing grandma is? Right!

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    Re: TSA stands by officers after pat-down of elderly woman in Florida

    Yes. As per procedure. As zyphillin said, it's OK to profile Arabs (which again wouldn't be a good way to secure an airport) but it's not OK to search white women and kids. Keep on truckin' GOP!

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    Re: TSA stands by officers after pat-down of elderly woman in Florida

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, strip searching a 95 y/o diaper wearing grandma is? Right!
    This anti-profile attitude is wasting tax dollars. It's called appeasement. It's called not calling it what it is. It's called willful dishonesty.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
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