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    No 'him' or 'her'; preschool fights gender bias

    STOCKHOLM – At the "Egalia" preschool, staff avoid using words like "him" or "her" and address the 33 kids as "friends" rather than girls and boys.
    From the color and placement of toys to the choice of books, every detail has been carefully planned to make sure the children don't fall into gender stereotypes.
    "Society expects girls to be girlie, nice and pretty and boys to be manly, rough and outgoing," says Jenny Johnsson, a 31-year-old teacher. "Egalia gives them a fantastic opportunity to be whoever they want to be."
    The taxpayer-funded preschool which opened last year in the liberal Sodermalm district of Stockholm for kids aged 1 to 6 is among the most radical examples of Sweden's efforts to engineer equality between the sexes from childhood onward.
    No 'him' or 'her'; preschool fights gender bias - Yahoo! News

    Gender Bias?

    I'm about as pro-trans rights, as they come around here, but this... is just ****ing mental this is.
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    Re: No 'him' or 'her'; preschool fights gender bias

    Eh. Why? Most of them will turn out exactly as they would have otherwise, just a degree less extremely stereotypical and more tolerant of people who don't fit the binary of their sex. And a few, who would have been trans or queer no matter what school they went to, will only be different in the sense that they will bypass a lot of the shame that they may have otherwise gone through.

    I don't necessarily think it needs to be done this strictly, but I can't see anything wrong with it.

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    Re: No 'him' or 'her'; preschool fights gender bias

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    No 'him' or 'her'; preschool fights gender bias - Yahoo! News

    Gender Bias?

    I'm about as pro-trans rights, as they come around here, but this... is just ****ing mental this is.
    Yea it's stupid gender experimentation on children.
    As if it is wrong for there to be differences between genders.

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    Re: No 'him' or 'her'; preschool fights gender bias

    This is Sweden. They have every right to try whatever the hell they want to try. Will it work? Who knows.
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    Re: No 'him' or 'her'; preschool fights gender bias

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    This is Sweden. They have every right to try whatever the hell they want to try. Will it work? Who knows.
    I don't think it's right to experiment on kids.
    Shouldn't be taken so lightly, when it could effect self identity development.
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    Re: No 'him' or 'her'; preschool fights gender bias

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I don't think it's right to experiment on kids.
    Shouldn't be taken so lightly, when it could effect self identity development.
    It is just gender roles. It's not even that big a deal. So a couple girls might grow up to want to be construction workers and a couple boys might grow up to be homemakers. There is not a whole lot of serious negatives likely to come from this.
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    Re: No 'him' or 'her'; preschool fights gender bias

    Next they'll start refering to each child as "it," shave all their heads and put them in identical gender-neutral pant-suits.

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    Re: No 'him' or 'her'; preschool fights gender bias

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    It is just gender roles. It's not even that big a deal. So a couple girls might grow up to want to be construction workers and a couple boys might grow up to be homemakers. There is not a whole lot of serious negatives likely to come from this.
    Gender is a biological thing.

    I don't think it is as light as you think.
    Experimenting on children is wrong, as well.
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    Re: No 'him' or 'her'; preschool fights gender bias

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Gender is a biological thing.

    I don't think it is as light as you think.
    Experimenting on children is wrong, as well.
    Gender is biological. Gender roles are learned.
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    Re: No 'him' or 'her'; preschool fights gender bias

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    No 'him' or 'her'; preschool fights gender bias - Yahoo! News

    Gender Bias?

    I'm about as pro-trans rights, as they come around here, but this... is just ****ing mental this is.
    It's just silly because people don't CHOOSE what gender they are.

    You can't just up and one decide decide to be male - or female . . . so much for teachers being smart, hunh?

    Where things become issues is when parents/teachers (etc) discourage play and fun activities based on gender roles . . . but you don't have to *not* call a girl a 'girl' in order to do this - you can simply let the boys play with the dolls and girls play with the trucks.
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