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    Re: No 'him' or 'her'; preschool fights gender bias

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Women can breastfeed. This means it was best they stay near the shelter with the baby. This developed into the woman being responsible for the kitchen, garden and other household responsibilities.
    LOL, I doubt there was any fully formed concept of "kitchen" or "garden" when gender roles first appeared.

    We have no records of this. We can guess at this, but it is pointless to pretend we know anything for certain, which was the point. We know what influences gender roles NOW and only a freaking moron claims that culture has no influence.

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    Well, there were gender roles before the agricultural revolution, but afterwards these were developed clearly. We should note that gender roles developed as a result of geographical necessity (the woman being near the shelter with the baby) and also out of strategic necessity. As it was a struggle to survive, each member of the team needed to be an expert in their particular responsibilities; thus, switching jobs or changing responsibilities was detrimenal to the survival of the team. What began as simple homestead geography developed into distinct areas of expertise and even gender-exclusive networks of knowledge and practices.

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    Re: No 'him' or 'her'; preschool fights gender bias

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    wrongo, boyo. they argue that gender is immaterial. if a person with a penis can claim to be a woman and a person with a vagina can be considered a man, gender is meaningless and therefore does not exist.
    You are the one arguing that gender is immaterial. If gender is determined solely by equipment then whether you act the part, wear the uniform or go by the name has no bearing. Gender roles, being manly or effeminate, are immaterial, not gender.

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    Re: No 'him' or 'her'; preschool fights gender bias

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    No it means they do not have their head firmly planted in their anus like you do. There is not one person that believes that evolution can explain all of culture and gender roles. There are just now, SOME that argue that evolutionary processes provide insight into culture and psychology. That alone is still rather controversial.
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    Re: No 'him' or 'her'; preschool fights gender bias

    Quote Originally Posted by RStringfield View Post
    You are the one arguing that gender is immaterial. If gender is determined solely by equipment then whether you act the part, wear the uniform or go by the name has no bearing. Gender roles, being manly or effeminate, are immaterial, not gender.
    so, how do you define gender then? is it actions or is it "equipment" because there are those that agrue against both of those considerations.

    what is gender?

    and for the record, I am not argueing that gender is immaterial. I am saying that there are people, if you accept their philosophy, who will render gender immaterial and meaningless
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    Re: No 'him' or 'her'; preschool fights gender bias

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    so, how do you define gender then? is it actions or is it "equipment" because there are those that agrue against both of those considerations.

    what is gender?

    and for the record, I am not argueing that gender is immaterial. I am saying that there are people, if you accept their philosophy, who will render gender immaterial and meaningless
    There is not any sane person arguing what gender is. Gender is equipment. Everything else is gender role. Now, I would certainly argue that SOME of our gender roles and preferences are explained based on different equipment and due to evolutionary factors. But it is just absurd to argue that all of them are based on this. There are mountains of evidence against that. Gender roles change over place and time. We know that for a fact and so obviously culture has a huge influence.

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    Re: No 'him' or 'her'; preschool fights gender bias

    Gender is not equipment. Sex is equipment. Gender is the designation by society of one's place and role. It can be male, female, child, elder, gay, etc and is neither bound nor defined by equipment, though equipment plays perhaps the most prominent role.

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    Re: No 'him' or 'her'; preschool fights gender bias

    Quote Originally Posted by RStringfield View Post
    Gender is equipment.
    then why are there people with male equipment claiming to be female and people with female equipment claiming to be male? I agree gender is primarily equipment, but there are many who disagree and would have us believe that gender is all about how a person "feels" about themself.

    I point you again to the "pregnant man" fiasco. "he" had all the female equipment (minus the breasts which had been surgically removed) but yet the liberal media hail it as some kind of freakin miracle. "PREGNANT MAN" "MAN GIVES BIRTH"

    every other month there is some story in the news about some "gender conflicted" kid at some high school complaining because the school admin refuses to call "him" suzy and let him wear a dress and use the girls restroom.


    this downplaying of gender roles is just another layer of the madness.
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    Re: No 'him' or 'her'; preschool fights gender bias

    Quote Originally Posted by RStringfield View Post
    There is not any sane person arguing what gender is. Gender is equipment. Everything else is gender role. Now, I would certainly argue that SOME of our gender roles and preferences are explained based on different equipment and due to evolutionary factors. But it is just absurd to argue that all of them are based on this. There are mountains of evidence against that. Gender roles change over place and time. We know that for a fact and so obviously culture has a huge influence.
    The fact that the roles change over place and time, however, doesn't mean they are meaningless and should be (or can be) stricken from culture.

    Cultures develop as a function of a variety of factors, including geography, interaction with other cultures, and human biology. Regardless of the culture or the place and time, however, the biological differences between man and woman have always led to cultural distinctions between the roles of men and women. These roles can be violated and there are cultural "rules" in place to address this phenomenon, but the mere fact that they change or can be violated doesn't mean they are meaningless -- the fact that they are universal and integral to every language and culture points to the fact that they do indeed serve a function, even if it is as simple as a cultural exaggeration of the biological difference between male and female.

    Unless we become biologically unisex (can't see that happening), our culture will continue to reflect the biological reality and exhibit different roles for males and females, regardless of the social engineering experiments we throw at our children.
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    Re: No 'him' or 'her'; preschool fights gender bias

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    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    then why are there people with male equipment claiming to be female and people with female equipment claiming to be male? I agree gender is primarily equipment, but there are many who disagree and would have us believe that gender is all about how a person "feels" about themself.

    I point you again to the "pregnant man" fiasco. "he" had all the female equipment (minus the breasts which had been surgically removed) but yet the liberal media hail it as some kind of freakin miracle. "PREGNANT MAN" "MAN GIVES BIRTH"
    You don't seem to get it. Whether I call you Oscar or Harriett has no more bearing on gender than your clothes. Those people are changing their gender role, not their gender.

    every other month there is some story in the news about some "gender conflicted" kid at some high school complaining because the school admin refuses to call "him" suzy and let him wear a dress and use the girls restroom.
    Sure there is :eyeroll: Please provide a link to one of these many stories.

    this downplaying of gender roles is just another layer of the madness.
    I thought you were conc erned about downplaying gender?

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