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    Re: No 'him' or 'her'; preschool fights gender bias

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    Feminicism. The left is still pushing that old ****. Gender neutrality, abortion...all things so women are in control. Make pussies out of men, and have them like it.
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    Re: No 'him' or 'her'; preschool fights gender bias

    At the very least, it relieves us of some blame.

    Boy, those women in charge of everything and look how screwed up the world is!

    I hope, someday.

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    Re: No 'him' or 'her'; preschool fights gender bias

    Quote Originally Posted by RStringfield View Post
    I think gender roles interfere in our ability to relate. Women and men see and relate to the world a bit differently and I do believe that is influenced by gender roles and culture.
    Everyone sees the world somewhat differently and that would be true for people educated in all-girls schools, all-boys schools, mixed schools or no schools. You seem to be saying that without gender we would all communicate more easily and that the world would thus be a more pleasant place in which to live.

    Trying to remove, or stifle, who we are genuinely are has not met with much success in the past, with few breakthroughs in heightened abilities to relate being reported.

    A persons sexuality comes very close in defining who they are as individuals and human beings. Start tampering and experimenting with that, in the hope that we can eventually all "relate" to each other, seems a bit foolhardy, and will probably keep their shrinks busy in another 30 years.

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    Re: No 'him' or 'her'; preschool fights gender bias

    STOCKHOLM At the "Egalia" preschool, staff avoid using words like "him" or "her" and address the 33 kids as "friends" rather than girls and boys.
    From the color and placement of toys to the choice of books, every detail has been carefully planned to make sure the children don't fall into gender stereotypes.
    What, exactly, is wrong with gender stereotypes?
    Haven't these stereotypes evolved because of, well, the evolutionary nature of Man?

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    Re: No 'him' or 'her'; preschool fights gender bias

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    It's very telling but why do you think this is true?
    Why do you think the "child bearing" gender is encouraged to be protected by the "suck it up" gender?

    We learn gender roles from adults for good reason, they have kept us as the top dogs for a long time.
    i think you're misunderstanding me. to a certain extent, those roles are important. they start to be troublesome when women, or men, are expected to behave or think a certain way simply because of their gender.

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: No 'him' or 'her'; preschool fights gender bias

    i remember this on the forum from not too long ago. i think it's quite a bit more drastic than a gender neutral school. kids attending that school have plenty of opportunity to recognize their gender outside of class. that's the important thing, these children have an opportunity to LEARN without preconceived bias.

    the kids in your story really don't.

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    Re: No 'him' or 'her'; preschool fights gender bias

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i think you're misunderstanding me. to a certain extent, those roles are important. they start to be troublesome when women, or men, are expected to behave or think a certain way simply because of their gender.
    Do you have an example or two?

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    Re: No 'him' or 'her'; preschool fights gender bias

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Everyone sees the world somewhat differently and that would be true for people educated in all-girls schools, all-boys schools, mixed schools or no schools. You seem to be saying that without gender we would all communicate more easily and that the world would thus be a more pleasant place in which to live.

    Trying to remove, or stifle, who we are genuinely are has not met with much success in the past, with few breakthroughs in heightened abilities to relate being reported.

    A persons sexuality comes very close in defining who they are as individuals and human beings. Start tampering and experimenting with that, in the hope that we can eventually all "relate" to each other, seems a bit foolhardy, and will probably keep their shrinks busy in another 30 years.
    I seem to be saying exactly what I said, gender interfers with our ability to relate to one another across gender, and nothing more. You seem to be trying to change what I said.

    We are stifling and tampering with gender identity by enforcing it the through social norms. That has kept our shrinks busy and will continue to do kepp them busy.

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    Re: No 'him' or 'her'; preschool fights gender bias

    Quote Originally Posted by RStringfield View Post
    I seem to be saying exactly what I said, gender interfers with our ability to relate to one another across gender...
    The fact that men cannot relate to women and that women cannot relate to men is just a part of nature. Not much can be done about it.

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    Re: No 'him' or 'her'; preschool fights gender bias

    I like the idea of making sure toys are designated a girl or boy but not using he or she seems extreme. I bet they are wasting their time. The kids will come in with their own bias anyway.
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