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    Re: New York to Become the Sixth State to Legalize Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    also, the sun rises in the east and sets in the west.

    your turn to state something obvious.
    Since an employer is already not able to discriminate, nothing has changed, hence no rights lost.

    Only libertarians would come up with something as insane as this.
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    Re: New York to Become the Sixth State to Legalize Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Since an employer is already not able to discriminate, nothing has changed, hence no rights lost.

    Only libertarians would come up with something as insane as this.
    personal attack noted.

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    Re: New York to Become the Sixth State to Legalize Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    personal attack noted.
    No, an attack on libertarianism. A large, unsubtle difference.
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    Re: New York to Become the Sixth State to Legalize Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Not subjective at all, but is a matter of law. You are not allowed to deny blacks the right to vote, nor are you allowed to decide that you don't have to sell a home to a black, gay, or anybody else you don't happen to like.
    I didn't know there were modern day segregationist or that some factions on the right were so opposed to progression. Stop holding us back.



    The worst thing about the existence of government is people using it to protect bigots and give them more power to discriminate against minorities and further racism in society. This is just harmful to society and ignorant.

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    Re: New York to Become the Sixth State to Legalize Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    hence the dilemma - individual bigotry is a right.
    No. It's a choice.
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    Re: New York to Become the Sixth State to Legalize Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    No. It's a choice.
    these terms are not mutually exclusive.

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    Re: New York to Become the Sixth State to Legalize Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    hence the dilemma - individual bigotry is a right.
    yes, you have a right to not have black friends.

    but the Supreme Court has decided that you do NOT have a right to not serve blacks at your restaurant, not allow blacks at your hotel, not hire blacks at your company, not sell blacks your merchandise, not allow blacks on your cruise ship, etc etc.

    discrimination on a private level, is your right. but when it involves commerce, it is not your right.

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    Re: New York to Become the Sixth State to Legalize Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    yes, you have a right to not have black friends.

    but the Supreme Court has decided that you do NOT have a right to not serve blacks at your restaurant, not allow blacks at your hotel, not hire blacks at your company, not sell blacks your merchandise, not allow blacks on your cruise ship, etc etc.

    discrimination on a private level, is your right. but when it involves commerce, it is not your right.

    sowwy...
    Are religious ceremonies a matter of commerce?
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    Re: New York to Become the Sixth State to Legalize Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    yes, you have a right to not have black friends.

    but the Supreme Court has decided that you do NOT have a right to not serve blacks at your restaurant, not allow blacks at your hotel, not hire blacks at your company, not sell blacks your merchandise, not allow blacks on your cruise ship, etc etc.

    discrimination on a private level, is your right. but when it involves commerce, it is not your right.

    sowwy...
    it is still a right, just not a protected one (like gay marriage in 44 states)

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    Re: New York to Become the Sixth State to Legalize Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    it is still a right, just not a protected one (like gay marriage in 44 states)
    That is going to change dramatically in the next few years.
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