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    Re: O.J. Simpson confessed murder to Oprah

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    O.J. was the most famous guilty person that the LAPD ever framed.
    Ah... so who went to jail from the LAPD for this obvious framing?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: O.J. Simpson confessed murder to Oprah

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    This isn't about proof, it's about your mentality. You seem to think all southern conservatives or a vast majority of them are racists. That puts things into perspective for me, when responding (or not) to you in the future. Any other thoughts generally about wide swaths of people or groups which you have an opinion on? Are all Jews dirty zionists for example? I'm just trying to gauge where you're heads at.

    First of all, I didn't say that most white people are racist, I said that most conservative "southern" whites don't have a positive view about minorities. I not just pulling this out of my a$$ either. I spent half of my childhood in Canton MS and most of my family are from there. I'm currently living in Dallas, TX. I've seen it first hand as a black man. My father has and still do experience it. Hell my white friends in Texas (Yes white friends) told me where not to travel in Texas.

    You criticize me but let me ask you something. Would you go the south central LA and visit. Clearly you would be okay because you don't think the vast majority of blacks and hispanics hate white people and are thugs there right?

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    Re: O.J. Simpson confessed murder to Oprah

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    First of all, I didn't say that most white people are racist, I said that most conservative "southern" whites don't have a positive view about minorities.
    Define "don't have a positive view about minorities", because it leads a reader to believe your using the politically correct accusation of "racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    I not just pulling this out of my a$$ either. I spent half of my childhood in Canton MS and most of my family are from there. I'm currently living in Dallas, TX. I've seen it first hand as a black man. My father has and still do experience it. Hell my white friends in Texas (Yes white friends) told me where not to travel in Texas.
    Yes I'm sure you have, and so have I seen racism before - a white man living in the North Eastern U.S. There's a difference between your personal experiences and then extending your personal experiences to all southern conservatives, or ANY general group. Because you may have had a bad time of it, or have been personally affected by racism directed towards you does not give you the right to then lay a blanket generalization to first a racial group and then throw in a political group on top of it.


    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    You criticize me but let me ask you something. Would you go the south central LA and visit. Clearly you would be okay because you don't think the vast majority of blacks and hispanics hate white people and are thugs there right?
    I've been to South Central LA, in fact I was there during the riots. I would go there today if I had a purpose for going there - clearly SC LA is not a vacation paradise nor does it pawn itself off as a tourist / vacation spot. If I want to see urban decay, I have Camden NJ to visit. And no, I don't think any generalized group is bad, evil or racist. Individuals certainly can be some or all of those things. I don't think Jews are dirty penny pinchers, I don't think blacks and hispanics are thugs and I don't think southern conservatives are all racist, and I happen to be middle aged, did my share of traveling, and met some folks along the way. What you are describing is a sterotype - and don't get me wrong, there are people who fit the stereotype, but don't lump everyone into it. It make you sound ... well... racist.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: O.J. Simpson confessed murder to Oprah

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    If no other post confirmed your assessment, the below post most certainly does.





    OJ wasn't found guilty simply because the evidence wasn't compelling enough to convict him - PERIOD. Had less to to do about with him being Black than it did about the evidence as presented in the case. While race did play a role, it wasn't the primary factor in acquitting him.

    Sure, there were some Black people who cheered for him, but you have to understand the racial atmosphere that was prevalent in LA at the time. With all the local police cracking down on gang violence (and as we know most LA gang membership consists of Blacks and Hispanics), and the subsequent racial profiling that ensued - some of it unwarranted - it's no wonder many Blacks felt vindicated in some measure. However, if you watched the trail or read any of the books covering the matter, you'd know that as far as the trial was concerned, race wasn't the prominent issue of concern during the trial, but rather the evidence itself, or rather the lack thereof.

    He could never be placed at the murder scene at the time of their deaths.

    No murder weapon was ever found.

    The DNA evidence was inconclusive.

    The blood splatter patterns under expert testimony was rendered inconsistent with how blood normally splatters when people are murdered in the manner described by the prosecutors.

    The physical evidence presented - the gloves - did not come close to fitting the alleged murderer.

    The evidence was circumstantial, but not conclusive. As such, the jury rendered a not guilty verdict.

    Again, I believed the man either did it or knew who did, but a jury of his peers hearing the testimony and reviewing the evidence thought otherwise. And for the record, I am BLACK!!! So, you can throw that absurd racial partiality crap out the window.
    The glove bit was turned into a circus, and the glove didn't fit because of what it had been through, and because OJ hadn't taken his arthritis meds. Tell us what was inconclusive about the DNA. Goldman's blood and DNA were all over everything.
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    Re: O.J. Simpson confessed murder to Oprah

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    That's an interesting take ... so OJ got away with murder out of fear his conviction would have caused riots by the black community. So all any ethnic, religious or interest group needs to do then to get their way in this country, is to threaten mass destruction to get anything they want. I didn't realize it was so easy to manipulate our system and way of life. I'm wondering why activists haven't used this method (if true) to overturn cities, take over areas of land or to manipulate our justice system more often, as it sounds rather easy to do.
    Just LA, and I thought because of the Rodney King thing. There was a lot of destruction from that verdict, even if it was the wrong verdict. King even had to come out and ask the people to get along.
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    Re: O.J. Simpson confessed murder to Oprah

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You mean the "blood evidence" with the preservative in it, that LAPD smeared on evidence without realizing that the preservative in the blood would show that OJ was not the person who put it there?

    Don't get me wrong....OJ was guilty....but the Simpson case is a classic example of police action at its worst and what can happen as a result. OJ wasn't acquitted because of fears of a riot....he was acquitted because the LAPD created reasonable doubt.
    What makes you think he was guilty? He had people's blood in areas it shouldn't have been, and who said all the blood was tainted? Maybe some of the policework was shoddy, but some of it was probably fine. I don't know if preservative will change the results of the testing. I read where some of the blood had been kept out for over 4 hrs in some detective's car or something.

    O'Reilly said the jurors told him they did not want to convict a black man. What would be the reason? I still think that there was a fear of violence as the country was very torn along racial lines over this particular case.
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    Re: O.J. Simpson confessed murder to Oprah

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    The glove bit was turned into a circus, and the glove didn't fit because of what it had been through, and because OJ hadn't taken his arthritis meds. Tell us what was inconclusive about the DNA. Goldman's blood and DNA were all over everything.
    I think the blood shrunk the glove. They were probably leather, and I agree they degraded. If the gloves had his blood on them along with Nicole and Ron's, well it would still seem like he did it, pretty strongly.

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    Re: O.J. Simpson confessed murder to Oprah

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    Um it says you lean Independent, so no I'm not talking about you. I was referring to some comments that were said about black people in this thread by southern conservatives.
    LOL. Truth is such a hard thing for some.

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    Re: O.J. Simpson confessed murder to Oprah

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    So did you feel the same about the Rodney King trial? Or he clearly deserve it because he is black.
    Did her murder two people and have a jury decide he need not pay a price because he is black as they are?

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    Re: O.J. Simpson confessed murder to Oprah

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You mean the "blood evidence" with the preservative in it, that LAPD smeared on evidence without realizing that the preservative in the blood would show that OJ was not the person who put it there?

    Don't get me wrong....OJ was guilty....but the Simpson case is a classic example of police action at its worst and what can happen as a result. OJ wasn't acquitted because of fears of a riot....he was acquitted because the LAPD created reasonable doubt.
    EDTA (food preservative) is a chemical found naturally in human blood and chemicals such as paint. At the time, tests were not readily available to differentiate between natural and contaminant EDTA or the differences in the levels of EDTA in blood between EDTA from a tube and naturally occurring EDTA.

    There was a lot of evidence, not just blood.
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