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    Dutch populist Geert Wilders acquitted of hate speech

    Dutch populist politician Geert Wilders was acquitted of inciting hatred of Muslims in a court ruling on Thursday that may strengthen his political influence and exacerbate tensions over immigration policy.

    The case was seen by some as a test of free speech in a country which has a long tradition of tolerance and blunt talk, but where opposition to immigration, particularly from Muslim or predominantly Muslim countries, is on the rise.
    Dutch populist Geert Wilders acquitted of hate speech | Reuters

    Score one for free speech.
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    Re: Dutch populist Geert Wilders acquitted of hate speech

    I suspect that some of his supporters/followers found more value in him as a martyr. Too bad for them. Good for him.

    Censorship sometimes has the opposite effect of what was intended. Usually better to let someone be heard as much as people want to listen.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Dutch populist Geert Wilders acquitted of hate speech

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    This is just the beginning as these groups are now taking their case to the hugely biased UNHRC.

    Others also face free speech problems.

    Basic Freedoms: A Relic of the Past | EuropeNews

    Meanwhile others choose to express their disagreements without dialog. According to the article
    Wilders, who has received numerous death threats and has to live under 24-hour guard, argued that he was exercising his right to freedom of speech when criticizing Islam.

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    Re: Dutch populist Geert Wilders acquitted of hate speech

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    The fact they would even have laws against "hate speech" and hold a trial for "hate speech" is not a score one for free speech.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Dutch populist Geert Wilders acquitted of hate speech

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    The fact they would even have laws against "hate speech" and hold a trial for "hate speech" is not a score one for free speech.
    Someone who gets it.

    Considering our history, its sooner a disgrace.

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    Re: Dutch populist Geert Wilders acquitted of hate speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Djoop View Post
    Someone who gets it.

    Considering our history, its sooner a disgrace.
    The only way this would have been a score one for free speech is if these idiotic hate speech laws were thrown out.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Dutch populist Geert Wilders acquitted of hate speech

    The hate comes from the Muslim Cult not those who oppose it.

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    Re: Dutch populist Geert Wilders acquitted of hate speech

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    The fact they would even have laws against "hate speech" and hold a trial for "hate speech" is not a score one for free speech.
    I'm sorry if oyu don't think that the guy winning the case is a score for free speech. It's a step in the right direction. Sheesh, some people cannot be pleased.
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    Re: Dutch populist Geert Wilders acquitted of hate speech

    Good on the Dutch.
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    Re: Dutch populist Geert Wilders acquitted of hate speech

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I'm sorry if oyu don't think that the guy winning the case is a score for free speech. It's a step in the right direction. Sheesh, some people cannot be pleased.
    Everyone lost in this case, regardless of the result. Muslims were ill represented by idiotic lawyers who were laughed out of court. The court lost a lot of credit knowing that one of the judges tried to influence a witness. Wilders lost a lot of time, not very useful during the election last year. The Netherlands in general, famous for its tolerance, lost credit.

    Moreover, this lawsuit wasn't the only disgraceful event teh last few years. Cartoonist have been arrested, plays have been banned, politicans called for a law on blasphemy days after the murder on Theo van Gogh. Journalists have been threatened, and even beat up by street thugs. It just goes on and on.

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