Page 8 of 8 FirstFirst ... 678
Results 71 to 75 of 75

Thread: Dutch populist Geert Wilders acquitted of hate speech

  1. #71
    Sage
    jamesrage's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    A place where common sense exists
    Last Seen
    12-10-17 @ 09:23 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Conservative
    Posts
    31,067

    Re: Dutch populist Geert Wilders acquitted of hate speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I have to agree. Hate speech laws are bull**** laws and should be done away with. Any form of "hate crime" is just more bull**** laws passed to expand power of government. Crime is crime. We already have designations for crime based on intent (lie 1st, 2nd, 3rd degree murder).
    I agree with that sentiment. These are merely laws designed to be able to fraudulently add more charges. Kind like some states being able to charge you for not having a tax stamp on marijuana if you get busted for possession or selling even though pot in most states is illegal. Hopefully the SC strikes down hate crime laws.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

  2. #72
    Sage
    Arcana XV's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Geneva, Switzerland and Rochester, NY
    Last Seen
    10-22-17 @ 10:25 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    6,412

    Re: Dutch populist Geert Wilders acquitted of hate speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I agree but feel it has to be fought (if that is the right word) on two fronts. The NHS example is so silly but not that uncommon. We see that in Canada also, though perhaps not that extreme.

    It's important that we simply say that such behaviour is unacceptable and if their religion takes precedence over their work then that will have to be their decision. This 'modesty' situation is just another example of things getting out of hand, and thus breeding unnecessary resentments.
    That NHS story, if actually true, is appalling. I take it with a grain of salt seeing as the original source is the Daily Mail and they're famous for either making things up or omitting important facts that change the entire gist of the story. However, let's for the sake of argument assume that it is true, I feel about that the same way I feel about pharmacists who refuse to fill birth control pills prescriptions: if your religion interferes with your job in any significant way, GTFO and find another one better suited.
    "Yes, but are you a Protestant atheist or a Catholic atheist?".- Northern Irish joke

  3. #73
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Canada, Costa Rica
    Last Seen
    05-16-16 @ 09:45 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,645

    Re: Dutch populist Geert Wilders acquitted of hate speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    That NHS story, if actually true, is appalling. I take it with a grain of salt seeing as the original source is the Daily Mail and they're famous for either making things up or omitting important facts that change the entire gist of the story. However, let's for the sake of argument assume that it is true, I feel about that the same way I feel about pharmacists who refuse to fill birth control pills prescriptions: if your religion interferes with your job in any significant way, GTFO and find another one better suited.
    It appears to be true as it's also in the Telegraph, quotes an NHS spokesman and applies to doctors as well as nurses.

    This sort of thing is happening in many areas of the world but because people are reluctant to discuss it for fear of being labeled "Islamophobic", "racist", or. threatened or murdered, it's often difficult to connect the dots. As well, people are often indifferent to the problems and assume it will all just go away.

    Muslim staff escape NHS hygiene rule - Telegraph

  4. #74
    Sage
    Arcana XV's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Geneva, Switzerland and Rochester, NY
    Last Seen
    10-22-17 @ 10:25 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    6,412

    Re: Dutch populist Geert Wilders acquitted of hate speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It appears to be true as it's also in the Telegraph, quotes an NHS spokesman and applies to doctors as well as nurses.

    This sort of thing is happening in many areas of the world but because people are reluctant to discuss it for fear of being labeled "Islamophobic", "racist", or. threatened or murdered, it's often difficult to connect the dots. As well, people are often indifferent to the problems and assume it will all just go away.

    Muslim staff escape NHS hygiene rule - Telegraph
    lol medical jihad

    But seriously, appalling. Remind me never to get sick while in the UK.
    "Yes, but are you a Protestant atheist or a Catholic atheist?".- Northern Irish joke

  5. #75
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Canada, Costa Rica
    Last Seen
    05-16-16 @ 09:45 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,645

    Re: Dutch populist Geert Wilders acquitted of hate speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    lol medical jihad

    But seriously, appalling. Remind me never to get sick while in the UK.
    There's probably a good plot for a horror movie in their somewhere.

    An innocent and young buxom blond woman screaming hysterically against the gray NHS hospital sheets while the audience only sees the soiled gloved hands of the nurse slowly approaching her bedside.

    Spooky!

Page 8 of 8 FirstFirst ... 678

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •