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    Re: Ron Paul, Barney Frank team up to legalize marijuana


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    Re: Ron Paul, Barney Frank team up to legalize marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    I personally think that this country is not ready to see hard drugs legalized. I don't think we want a world where people can go out and buy something like heroin with ease. Heroin is not like pot. You can't just talk to any idiot you're friends with to get your hands on smack.
    This country may not be "ready" but that doesn't mean it's not the right answer. It doesn't matter how dangerous a drug is, when you make that drug illegal you make it more dangerous, not less. Prohibition is also responsible for creating new and more dangerous drugs that wouldn't exist otherwise. For example, crack wouldn't exist if it weren't for the War on Drugs. The WoD made cocaine so expensive that people invented crack as a cheap alternative. Now we have another drug that's even worse than the original. For a while there, head shops were selling synthetic marijuana, which you can overdose and die from, all because the relatively harmless real thing is treated like nuclear radiation. Prohibition doesn't solve problems, it creates them. Regardless of what drug is prohibited.

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    Re: Ron Paul, Barney Frank team up to legalize marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Counseling...therapy...but not a rehab program. No detox required for marijuana use and he wont stop without being able to understand why he continues to use if it is screwing up his life. Marijuana cessation programs arent all that effective in my experience.

    To American-and no, dont feel compelled to answer...its your family business...
    ...but...Out of curiosity...how is 'marijuana' screwing up the boys life? is it the marijuana or is it his other life choices? Just curious...not prying. I walked through a glass door when I was a kid stoned out of my mind. I was a regular user but I would be dishonest if I said it was the drugs that were doing it to me.
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    Re: Ron Paul, Barney Frank team up to legalize marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Binary_Digit View Post
    This country may not be "ready" but that doesn't mean it's not the right answer. It doesn't matter how dangerous a drug is, when you make that drug illegal you make it more dangerous, not less. Prohibition is also responsible for creating new and more dangerous drugs that wouldn't exist otherwise. For example, crack wouldn't exist if it weren't for the War on Drugs. The WoD made cocaine so expensive that people invented crack as a cheap alternative. Now we have another drug that's even worse than the original. For a while there, head shops were selling synthetic marijuana, which you can overdose and die from, all because the relatively harmless real thing is treated like nuclear radiation. Prohibition doesn't solve problems, it creates them. Regardless of what drug is prohibited.
    I'm sorry but you still are not going to get me to support legalizing really hard drugs. Let's see what happens when we reschedule Marijuana and let the states come up with their own statutes regarding it. I don't think I want to live in a country where I can go to the gas station and buy smack, the worst drug currently around in my view, if you've ever seen/dealt with a smack addict, and then just shoot it at home, and buy more as needed.

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    Re: Ron Paul, Barney Frank team up to legalize marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    I'm sorry but you still are not going to get me to support legalizing really hard drugs. Let's see what happens when we reschedule Marijuana and let the states come up with their own statutes regarding it. I don't think I want to live in a country where I can go to the gas station and buy smack, the worst drug currently around in my view, if you've ever seen/dealt with a smack addict, and then just shoot it at home, and buy more as needed.
    Did you happen to read the article I posted regarding the decriminalization of drugs in Portugal?
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    Re: Ron Paul, Barney Frank team up to legalize marijuana

    I know about what Portugal did. I didn't see the article but I am aware that they've decriminalized everything from pot to smack. And I know use went down within teens, but again, it did infact go up in regular adults. I really just do not want smack to be something purchasable on the street. Americans are a lot different from Portuguese.

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    Re: Ron Paul, Barney Frank team up to legalize marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    It's never just one thing.
    Yep...and attacking the symptom never leads to a cure.

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    Re: Ron Paul, Barney Frank to jointly offer bill to end war on weed

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Anyone think this has a chance of passing?



    Ron Paul, Barney Frank to jointly offer bill to end war on weed - latimes.com
    Congressmen Ron Paul, Barney Frank and others will introduce legislature Thursday that aims to end a major part of the war on drugs -- namely the battle against marijuana.

    Reps. Paul (R-Texas) and Frank (D-Mass.), though technically on opposite sides of the aisle, have often spoken out against the war on drugs and will propose a bill "tomorrow ending the federal war on marijuana and letting states legalize, regulate, tax, and control marijuana without federal interference," according to a statement from the Marijuana Policy Project via Reason.

    The bill would allow the individual states to decide how they want to deal with pot. Currently the federal government bogarts U.S. law, oftentimes arresting owners and employees of medical marijuana facilities, for example, who thought they were operating legally under city, county and/or state laws.

    "The legislation would limit the federal government’s role in marijuana enforcement to cross-border or inter-state smuggling, allowing people to legally grow, use or sell marijuana in states where it is legal," according to the MPP statement.
    Oh, well scratch me trying it when it becomes legal. My backwards ass state full of libertarian retards that don't know what small government is if it bit them in the ass would never allow something as dangerous as weed to be legal. ****, I can't even buy alcohol on Sundays.
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    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Ron Paul, Barney Frank team up to legalize marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Lets just stick to beer bellies like good ol 'mericans???

    I bet she has a great personality.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Ron Paul, Barney Frank team up to legalize marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    I know about what Portugal did. I didn't see the article but I am aware that they've decriminalized everything from pot to smack. And I know use went down within teens, but again, it did infact go up in regular adults. I really just do not want smack to be something purchasable on the street. Americans are a lot different from Portuguese.
    Actually, deaths, HIV, and prositution related to illegal drug use all declined over a 5 year period.
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