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    Re: Ron Paul, Barney Frank team up to legalize marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by sookster View Post
    All the evidence you need is from the two articles I presented earlier.
    What I presented, is the only evidence that you need.
    It's really not. Until you can rule out that the brain of a living person is somehow different than a two chemical reaction in a lab, it's not.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Ron Paul, Barney Frank team up to legalize marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by RStringfield View Post
    What's rock bottom on marijuana? Empty cubbards and a pile of food wrappers?

    You are wrong on both points, though. The welfare state does not stop people from hitting rock bottom and you don't need to hit rock bottom to stop using.
    Rock bottom is a phrase – it is different for each individual. One person may feel that getting too high to remember their kids birthday is rock bottom – another may need to find themselves on welfare or homeless to equate it to rock bottom.

    That you choose to argue such a phrase with a person you claim is stupid beyond words indicates how full of it you actually are. Your words and actions contradict one another.

    Free markets lead to vast sums of wealth. Black markets lead to an early grave. Mexico is not growing wealthy. The life expectancy is growing shorter.
    More empty rhetoric.

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    Re: Ron Paul, Barney Frank team up to legalize marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by sookster View Post
    All the evidence you need is from the two articles I presented earlier. Even neurotransmitters will have an equilibrium constant, and that chemical reaction will actually start an action potential, driving a current through the brain. What I presented, is the only evidence that you need. I am sure if I were to go to a medical library (like Washington University's medical library) I could obtain even more evidence that you require, but unfortunately I do not have access to that library anymore. I had a non-paying internship at a brain research lab during a summer, and that summer has been long gone.

    Honestly, I got better stuff to do really. If you still require more evidence, I'm sure you can find it. Just look for brain images in subjects that are daily smokers and have been smoking for decades.
    lead researcher and psychiatrist Igor Grant, MD.

    Tod Mikuriya, MD, former director of non-classified marijuana research for the National Institute of Mental Health Center for Narcotics and Drug Abuse Studies

    Pretty sure those guys and their research teams know what they are talking about more than you do. Stop trying to show off your abilities at balancing chemical equations and actually look at the science.


    Heavy Marijuana Use Doesn't Damage Brain

    Other than causing the obvious impairment issues with learning and memory, no one's brain was destroyed.
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    Re: Ron Paul, Barney Frank team up to legalize marijuana

    The study only lasted for up to 13 years. The gentleman that I originally was talking about has been smoking daily for at least 40 years.

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    Re: Ron Paul, Barney Frank team up to legalize marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by sookster View Post
    The study only lasted for up to 13 years. The gentleman that I originally was talking about has been smoking daily for at least 40 years.
    And you got to examine his brain? And were able to rule out other possible causes?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Ron Paul, Barney Frank team up to legalize marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    And you got to examine his brain? And were able to rule out other possible causes?
    So then sookster, right now you have discovered a scientific breakthrough? No other doctor or researcher has thought of your little high school level chemical equation before? I highly doubt that. Marijuana is not going to "destroy" the brain in the sense you are saying.

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    Re: Ron Paul, Barney Frank team up to legalize marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    So then sookster, right now you have discovered a scientific breakthrough? No other doctor or researcher has thought of your little high school level chemical equation before? I highly doubt that. Marijuana is not going to "destroy" the brain in the sense you are saying.
    He may be right for all I know, but he's not been able to show that.
    I have not been able to find anything that supports his case. I suspect that neither has he, or he would have posted it.

    So far all sookster has presented is post hoc ergo propter hoc born from a union of high school chemistry and an anecdote or two.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Ron Paul, Barney Frank team up to legalize marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by CarlF View Post
    I would feel about the same as if you were drinking alcohol while driving. Why you seem to equate legalizing the possession of drugs to legalizing their use while driving is beyond me.
    Yeah, you're right, I didn't word it very well...My bad. But in all truthfulness, You don't have a roadside sobriety test for pot, other than training cops to look for involuntary reactions with the eyes. But even that is subjective. How would you go about making sure that a person didn't smoke a couple of joints before driving?


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    Re: Ron Paul, Barney Frank team up to legalize marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    Rock bottom is a phrase – it is different for each individual. One person may feel that getting too high to remember their kids birthday is rock bottom – another may need to find themselves on welfare or homeless to equate it to rock bottom.
    Here you go again with your stupid pretense that I need your two cents. Yeah, I understand "rock bottom" is a phrase, Einstein. Who doesn't? I understand how it is used too, which I clearly demonstrated.

    Nobody hits rock bottom on marijuana and plenty of people just quit after years of responsible use. You sound like some wacko 12 stepper. Either that are you just parroting one on a subject of which you have no knowledge.

    More empty rhetoric.
    It's not empty rhetoric at all. These are the basics of free market principles and why they are preferrable.

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    Re: Ron Paul, Barney Frank team up to legalize marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by RStringfield View Post
    Here you go again with your stupid pretense that I need your two cents. Yeah, I understand "rock bottom" is a phrase, Einstein. Who doesn't? I understand how it is used too, which I clearly demonstrated.

    Nobody hits rock bottom on marijuana and plenty of people just quit after years of responsible use. You sound like some wacko 12 stepper. Either that are you just parroting one on a subject of which you have no knowledge.



    It's not empty rhetoric at all. These are the basics of free market principles and why they are preferrable.
    your posts indicate to me that you are a teenager - possibly college aged. That is the time span when people that are clearly not all together think they know it all.

    people most certainly can hit rock bottom on pot - just because something doesn't produce a chemical dependency doesn't mean it can't turn into psychological dependency.

    I have been pretty patient with your ignorance overall, but it is most definitely ignorance on display.

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