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Ron Paul, Barney Frank team up to legalize marijuana

And you got to examine his brain? And were able to rule out other possible causes?

So then sookster, right now you have discovered a scientific breakthrough? No other doctor or researcher has thought of your little high school level chemical equation before? I highly doubt that. Marijuana is not going to "destroy" the brain in the sense you are saying.
 
So then sookster, right now you have discovered a scientific breakthrough? No other doctor or researcher has thought of your little high school level chemical equation before? I highly doubt that. Marijuana is not going to "destroy" the brain in the sense you are saying.
He may be right for all I know, but he's not been able to show that.
I have not been able to find anything that supports his case. I suspect that neither has he, or he would have posted it.

So far all sookster has presented is post hoc ergo propter hoc born from a union of high school chemistry and an anecdote or two.
 
I would feel about the same as if you were drinking alcohol while driving. Why you seem to equate legalizing the possession of drugs to legalizing their use while driving is beyond me.

Yeah, you're right, I didn't word it very well...My bad. But in all truthfulness, You don't have a roadside sobriety test for pot, other than training cops to look for involuntary reactions with the eyes. But even that is subjective. How would you go about making sure that a person didn't smoke a couple of joints before driving?


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Rock bottom is a phrase – it is different for each individual. One person may feel that getting too high to remember their kids birthday is rock bottom – another may need to find themselves on welfare or homeless to equate it to rock bottom.

Here you go again with your stupid pretense that I need your two cents. Yeah, I understand "rock bottom" is a phrase, Einstein. Who doesn't? I understand how it is used too, which I clearly demonstrated.

Nobody hits rock bottom on marijuana and plenty of people just quit after years of responsible use. You sound like some wacko 12 stepper. Either that are you just parroting one on a subject of which you have no knowledge.

More empty rhetoric.

It's not empty rhetoric at all. These are the basics of free market principles and why they are preferrable.
 
Here you go again with your stupid pretense that I need your two cents. Yeah, I understand "rock bottom" is a phrase, Einstein. Who doesn't? I understand how it is used too, which I clearly demonstrated.

Nobody hits rock bottom on marijuana and plenty of people just quit after years of responsible use. You sound like some wacko 12 stepper. Either that are you just parroting one on a subject of which you have no knowledge.



It's not empty rhetoric at all. These are the basics of free market principles and why they are preferrable.

your posts indicate to me that you are a teenager - possibly college aged. That is the time span when people that are clearly not all together think they know it all.

people most certainly can hit rock bottom on pot - just because something doesn't produce a chemical dependency doesn't mean it can't turn into psychological dependency.

I have been pretty patient with your ignorance overall, but it is most definitely ignorance on display.
 
I looked at my son's health notes he had last year and apparently the teacher instructed the students that marijuana "kills sperm in great numbers..."...
Pot prob'ly doesn't kill sperm as quickly nor as often as a teen aged boy does.
 
your posts indicate to me that you are a teenager - possibly college aged. That is the time span when people that are clearly not all together think they know it all.

people most certainly can hit rock bottom on pot - just because something doesn't produce a chemical dependency doesn't mean it can't turn into psychological dependency.

I have been pretty patient with your ignorance overall, but it is most definitely ignorance on display.

And your post indicates to me that your knowledge of drugs is based of some crap you bastardized from a 12 step program. People smoke marijuana responsibly. Sometimes people decide they don't want to smoke responsibly anymore and quit. There is no need for them to hit rock bottom or engage in some destructive behavior first.
 
And your post indicates to me that your knowledge of drugs is based of some crap you bastardized from a 12 step program. People smoke marijuana responsibly. Sometimes people decide they don't want to smoke responsibly anymore and quit. There is no need for them to hit rock bottom or engage in some destructive behavior first.

some people smoke it responsibly, but not all do.

you will find this to be true as you mature. your limited world view right now hasn't afforded you the opportunity to see it firsthand.
 
some people smoke it responsibly, but not all do.

you will find this to be true as you mature. your limited world view right now hasn't afforded you the opportunity to see it firsthand.

You have yet to offer any knowledge or wisdom of any interest to me. I never said all people smoke it responsibly.

Your point about what is necessary for someone to "recover" is nonsense.
 
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You have yet to offer any knowledge or wisdom of any interest to me. I never said all people smoke it responsibly.

you implied it by brushing off the idea that anybody could use it recklessly.

Your point about what is necessary for someone to "recover" is nonsense.

I never said it is necessary.

but I do see how private charity works better in handling addiction then public charity we have today.
 
some people smoke it responsibly, but not all do.

you will find this to be true as you mature. your limited world view right now hasn't afforded you the opportunity to see it firsthand.

Right. I'd say that some is probably a most. The people who smoke daily are around 5-10 percent of the smoking population I believe (check me on this if you'd like). There's no doubt some abuse it.
 
you implied it by brushing off the idea that anybody could use it recklessly.

It's pretty hard to do it "recklessly." Some people have problems controlling their impulse and smoke more than they should. But that is like somebody that spends too much time on BBs, discussing politics. Those people have impulse control issues and excessive marijuana use is a symptom of their problem not the cause.

I don't know if I would call it reckless.

I never said it is necessary.

Yeah you did.

mine are actually valid - a nanny state often prevents people from reaching rock bottom - which is needed to clean up from drugs. So legalizing drugs, while not enforcing personal responsibility is a bad combination.
 
As RStringfield stated, there are a wide variety of addictions. Food, money, power, video games, sex, drugs, and authority, just to name a few.
 
I'm just tired of seeing our jails fill up with non-violent drug offenders... for heaven's sake... let the grass grow. Even as a conservative I can see the benefits of legalizing marijuana... completely harmless. People need to wake up from the 1950's brainwashing of the anti-drug campaign and take a seat in reality. MJ is less addicting than nicotine and caffine according to a recent study and still we treat posession and use like we treat hypo-junkies. Don't fight it- legalize it.
 
Lets just stick to beer bellies like good ol 'mericans???

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She's cute :iloveyou:
 
Be so awesome if it happened.

That would mean Canada could legalize it.

I do think that the US puts alot of pressure on Canada not to legalize it.
 
She's cute :iloveyou:
How is it possible that your first post on this site is a zombie thread from 2011?

Welcome to the party?
 
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