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    GOP poll: Tea party movement could cost Republicans in 2012 Read more: http://www.mi

    GOP poll: Tea party movement could cost Republicans in 2012 - Political Currents - MiamiHerald.com

    The sentiment against the tea party is significantly higher among self-described independent voters, who swing elections in Florida and who looked unfavorably on the tea party by 3-to-1, the poll showed.
    not surprising one bit and it will only get worse I suspect.
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    Re: GOP poll: Tea party movement could cost Republicans in 2012 Read more: http://ww

    That information by itself is irrelevant without knowing a bit more information.

    What's the feeling of independents towards the Republican Party? For example, if Independents are 5:1 unfavorable to the Republican Party then it indicates there's actually more independents likely to support a Tea Party type candidate rather than at typical Republican candidate.

    What's the general political lean of these independents? Are independent Florida voters typically more liberal than conservative? If so, by what amount.

    Finally, what's the likelihood of these individual who have a negative view of the Tea Party to vote for a Republican if its NOT a tea party backed person? What's the likelihood of the individuals with a positive view of the Tea Party to vote for a Republican if its NOT a tea party backed person? If the majority of those unfavorable of the Tea Party wouldn't vote Republican in either instance, then this matters very little. Similarly, if many of those that have a favorable view of the Tea Party are likely to vote 3rd party/Democrat/not vote should a "moderate" republican win while few of the ones unfavorable to the Tea Party are likely to vote Republican regardless, then it could actually suggest things are better than the poll makes it out to seem.

    Is this poll a good sign for the Tea Party of Florida? No. But its hardly a devestating thing the OP is attempting to insinuate with what little information is provided

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    Re: GOP poll: Tea party movement could cost Republicans in 2012 Read more: http://ww

    I see where they posted the negatives for the Tea Party, did they even bother finding out what the negatives were for the Dems and the GoP? Looks like a poll done to support a meme to me.

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    Re: GOP poll: Tea party movement could cost Republicans in 2012 Read more: http://ww

    We heard the same **** in 2010, "The TEA PARTY WILL HURT THE GOP!"

    But the House... was basically the Tea Party's doing...


    hmmmm
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    Re: GOP poll: Tea party movement could cost Republicans in 2012 Read more: http://ww

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    We heard the same **** in 2010, "The TEA PARTY WILL HURT THE GOP!"

    But the House... was basically the Tea Party's doing...


    hmmmm
    To say the house was mostly the tea party's doing is a huge stretch. The house was mostly the doing of poor economy and the fact that the sitting president's party almost always does poorly.

    It's was too early in the election season for polls to mean much of anything, even when you would like them to be true.
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    Re: GOP poll: Tea party movement could cost Republicans in 2012 Read more: http://ww

    The Tea Party is saving the GOP from itself.

    The people will not put up with big government, big spending Republicanism.
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    Re: GOP poll: Tea party movement could cost Republicans in 2012 Read more: http://ww

    Does it matter which way Independent voters tend to vote? The fact of the matter is according the poll, Independent voters aren't too keen on Tea Party members right now. And if their dislike for them continues and spreads nationwide, the Republican party will have problems. Why? Because the Tea Party comes under the umbrella of the Republican party. Doesn't matter the "mix" of so-called "true political affiliation" that make up the Tea Party. By default, Independents will abandon the Tea Party - and by association, the Republican party - in large numbers if their discontent widens.

    Truth is, your Republican candidates cannot win the 2012 Presidency w/o either: a) bringing in a 3rd-party candidate, or b) pulling several Independent voters away from the Democrat party. And if the Tea Party is causing that much of a stir and making potential "swing voters" that much more disgrutled, the Republican party may find itself in big trouble come election time.
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    Re: GOP poll: Tea party movement could cost Republicans in 2012 Read more: http://ww

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Does it matter which way Independent voters tend to vote? The fact of the matter is according the poll, Independent voters aren't too keen on Tea Party members right now. And if their dislike for them continues and spreads nationwide, the Republican party will have problems. Why? Because the Tea Party comes under the umbrella of the Republican party. Doesn't matter the "mix" of so-called "true" political affiliation. By default, Independents will abandon the Tea Party - and by association, the Republican party - in large numbers.

    Truth is, your Republican candidates cannot win the 2012 Presidency w/o either: a) bringing in a 3rd-party candidate, or b) pulling several Independent voters away from the Democrat party. And if the Tea Party is causing that much of a stir and making potention "swing voters" that much more disgrutled, the Republican party may find itself in big trouble come election time.
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    Because as we all know, independents WILL vote hard left, but they cannot bring themselves to vote for anyone that might even remotely appear more right then center
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    Re: GOP poll: Tea party movement could cost Republicans in 2012 Read more: http://ww

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
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    Because as we all know, independents WILL vote hard left, but they cannot bring themselves to vote for anyone that might even remotely appear more right then center

    Are trying to say the Tea Party is just slightly right of center?

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    Re: GOP poll: Tea party movement could cost Republicans in 2012 Read more: http://ww

    Mr. McV,

    Did I say that? No, I did not even though yes, you are correct in that Independents do typically vote Democrat. But nowhere in my post did I make such a connection of Independent voters to the Democrat party. Fact is, Independent voters are "independent" for a reason - they don't want to be boxed in to side with any one particular political party over another. They wish to retain their autonomy. As such, both sides - Democrats and Republicans - covet Independent voters in the hopes of tipping the political scales in their favor. You know that as well as I do. So, let's not make political arguments were there aren't any.

    Fact is, the Tea Party along with many of the austerity measures Republicans are putting in place in states they run (either as Conservative Governors or Republican state legislators) are causing problems. If Independent voters view their actions as too obstructionist, too isolationist, too economically stringent they will pull back from Tea Party members and, by default, the Republican party.
    Last edited by Objective Voice; 06-23-11 at 06:57 PM.

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