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    Re: Poll: 44% of Americans Worse Off Under Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Whether or not they would have helped the economy is a basis of ideology. If you don't feel something will be beneficial, why do it? Even the CBO and economists are split on how helpful or how a big a hinderance some of the successfully passed policies have been.
    Sorry, but that is a cop-out. Doing nothing is not doing something, no matter how you want to spin it. Basically you are saying that Republicans have no idea how to help the country. While I agree that Republicans have no clue, they certainly have ideas, backward as they may be, but they lack either the cojones or brain power to put them on the table. They would rather block any idea coming from the left or the President, not because they believe the bills would not be successful or beneficial, but because they know that a poor economy is their very best chance to unseat Obama in '12, and as Mitch McConnel has said, getting Obama out of office is the only priority the Republicans have, the workers and the economy be damned (I'm paraphrasing, of course).
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    Re: Poll: 44% of Americans Worse Off Under Obama

    It always amazes me, on this forum and on others, how "at the ready" conservatives are with links to stories and information. Too bad the links and information they direct you to consist of either bad, inaccurate, or misleading information, or the link itself has no bearing on the topic at hand. Such is the case here.

    Your link is to a Politico story about opening up drilling in three areas of the country. This bill would not lower gas prices, not even one cent, so I hope you did not post the link to imply that Republicans are trying to help the economy with this pathetic bill. The House Republicans are doing their masters bidding, nothing more, and Senate Dems see it for what it is. Kudos to the Dems for throwing the high price of gasolense as leverage in repreiving the oil companies of their rediculous subsidies.
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    Re: Poll: 44% of Americans Worse Off Under Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by ADG View Post
    If you think Reaganomics was bad, just try and implement the Libertarian fantasyland system. America would truly become a third world country.
    Please...what do you think is happening under YOUR happy leadership? 15 trillion...and counting...go ahead and apoligize to your grandchildren in advance for the ****ed mess you have left them.

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    Re: Poll: 44% of Americans Worse Off Under Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    Dear Allah, you suck at this...

    The new players and coaching staff are his administration... not the economy.

    The previous administration is the old team management and coaching staff.

    Not making the playoffs is not improving the economy.

    The current team management and coaching staff (Obama & his administration), are blaming the previous team management and coaching staff (Bush and his administration), for not making the playoffs (improving the economy).

    So if you have an entirely new team, and the officials are totally in the pocket of your opposition. And your locker rooms are freezing because there's no money for heat, so everybody has a cold all the time. And none of the practise balls will hold air.

    NOW do you get it?
    Anyone wondering what I'm talking about start here:
    The Psychology of Persuasion

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    Re: Poll: 44% of Americans Worse Off Under Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    So if you have an entirely new team, and the officials are totally in the pocket of your opposition. And your locker rooms are freezing because there's no money for heat, so everybody has a cold all the time. And none of the practise balls will hold air.

    NOW do you get it?
    Obviously more so than you do.

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    Re: Poll: 44% of Americans Worse Off Under Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I absolutely disagree that the government cannot significantly help or hinder the economy.
    So you must agree that it was Bush who was resposible for the deep recession during his term in office???

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    Re: Poll: 44% of Americans Worse Off Under Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Please...what do you think is happening under YOUR happy leadership? 15 trillion...and counting...go ahead and apoligize to your grandchildren in advance for the ****ed mess you have left them.
    Most of that debt was created under Republican presidents, Reagan, Bush 41, Bush 43.

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    Re: Poll: 44% of Americans Worse Off Under Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Most of that debt was created under Republican presidents, Reagan, Bush 41, Bush 43.
    Really? How has it been since dems took over the budget in 2007? Cuz...dems do a MUCH better job...

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    Re: Poll: 44% of Americans Worse Off Under Obama

    As a liberal I would love to defend Obama against all accusations, but I think the honest answer here is that he isn't perfect in handling this financial crisis, but he is definitely doing what he believes will help the most. Of course, what is the right way or the best way we will never find out, liberals like myself think stimulus will help, conservatives thinks just let the banks fail and free economy will take care of the rest.

    But we do know one thing, the crashing of the housing market was the key to the economic collapse and if we recover, we better make some meaningful changes there. If you need to blame someone for the bad economy, the people who started this housing bust, those who installed the policies that inflated the market, allowed the banks to use debt as an unregulated trading instrument should ultimately be responsible. Everyone else are just trying to fix this mess.

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    Re: Poll: 44% of Americans Worse Off Under Obama

    The President and the financial system collapsing are mutually exclusive. If we had a Republican President the shame **** would be happening. The bail outs would have happened and we would still have financial mismanagement.

    I wish people would take off their partisan blinders and get with the ****ing program already.

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