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    Re: Obama Gets 30% of Americans Certain to Support Re-Election in Economy Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I don't think he is the best we could have; he was just better than what he ran against. Put a better candidate up there and I'll consider that person.

    Now would you argue I was wrong in what I said?

    Who is the best then....Tell us, who would Boo Radley think couldn't be beaten, that would be the best America has to offer?

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    Re: Obama Gets 30% of Americans Certain to Support Re-Election in Economy Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Who is the best then....Tell us, who would Boo Radley think couldn't be beaten, that would be the best America has to offer?

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    Don't know for sure at this moment. What little I know of Hunstman seems good. But I do knwo we don't need crazy, or extreme, or stupid. I just think we need to work harder at getting good, intelligent, reasonable people to run, frown on the excessive gottcha nonsense, and stop feeding the attack ad machine.

    Do you argee with me or not?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama Gets 30% of Americans Certain to Support Re-Election in Economy Poll

    Got to go J. Perhaps you'll have an answer before I return.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama Gets 30% of Americans Certain to Support Re-Election in Economy Poll

    I particularly like Marco Rubio. I hope he can keep his nose clean and cover his six while he swims with the sharks.

    If he survives, he might make for a GREAT president someday. He's the only real voice of reason coming out of Florida right now, IMO. Keep your eye on him America.
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    Re: Obama Gets 30% of Americans Certain to Support Re-Election in Economy Poll

    And of course J-mac cherry picks:

    At the same time, Americans are skeptical that Republican control of the White House and Congress will be a better prescription for their economic wellbeing. Sixty percent said that any Republican candidate will need to move so far to the right on fiscal and social issues to win their party’s nomination that it will be very hard to back the nominee.
    Furthermore, the poll leaves out the most important factor in determining if Obama's out of a job: who's he's running against.
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    Re: Obama Gets 30% of Americans Certain to Support Re-Election in Economy Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    These polls are meaningless before we know who is the competition.
    Indeed. Ptif and J-Mac are deliberately ignoring this.

    From recent polls, Obama loses to a generic republican. But once you start putting real candidates against him, Obama goes from a victory margin of ~4% to dominating 16% depending on the Republican. Polls like this tell us nothing useful.
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    Re: Obama Gets 30% of Americans Certain to Support Re-Election in Economy Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Hmmm....Not looking good for 'the One'... Aren't these numbers lower than Bush at the same mark?

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    If the GOP props up Sara Palin or John McCain, Mitt Romney or some other RINO then they might as well be guaranteeing Obama's second term. So it isn't over until the fat Lady croaks.
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    Re: Obama Gets 30% of Americans Certain to Support Re-Election in Economy Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Indeed. Ptif and J-Mac are deliberately ignoring this.

    From recent polls, Obama loses to a generic republican. But once you start putting real candidates against him, Obama goes from a victory margin of ~4% to dominating 16% depending on the Republican. Polls like this tell us nothing useful.
    Finally something I agree with .. this far out .. polls are nothing more then fodder for the news media ..

    The bottom line here is the economy, plain and simple .. if it can be reversed .. and show strong “real” signs of improvement .. obama will difficult to beat .. the other thing that will be used against him is the debt and deficit spending .. that will also have to be gotten under control .. But if the average American is somewhat better off then when a president took office .. then chances are good he will be re-elected.

    At this point in time .. Americans aren't better off .. unemployment is still high, companies aren't hiring and people are suffering more … inflation .. is beginning to show it's ugly head .. so yes at this time he would be hard pressed to win over any reasonable candidate. But he has a year to turn some of that around ..

    One thing I've been pondering tho .. and this has no fact basis at all … .but he has made a lot of enemies of big business, and if they so choose to do so .. could easily cause a turn down in the economy in say .. April or May of next year .. that would insure a defeat. As I said no facts to back this up, just my own thinking that if business were to decide they wanted someone more favorable to them running this country, they could pull back their money .. give another round of layoffs .. pull their money out of the stock market, release reports of them losing money .. a 2nd dip so close to an election would have the desired effects . As I said just my own opinion …... but on the other hand .. My money is coming out of the stock market right after Christmas … I'll risk the rewards of upwards ticks for 6 or 7 months .. just in case ..

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    Re: Obama Gets 30% of Americans Certain to Support Re-Election in Economy Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That's true to a point, but that doesn't make a good choice either. The fact is, she has issue that will hurt her in the general election. This is true no matter who says it.

    You may not believe this, but I would love to see a valid candidate. I don't think our system benefits from having poor candidates run. I would rather risk losing to a good candidate than having two poor candidates run. whether you believe me or not, would you argue hat what I say is wrong?
    Compared to Obamacare and the economy we have under Obama and the high unemployment under Obama not to mention the wars and Obama apologizing I would say Obama is the bad candidate.

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    Re: Obama Gets 30% of Americans Certain to Support Re-Election in Economy Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Hmmm....Not looking good for 'the One'... Aren't these numbers lower than Bush at the same mark?

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    That must be the 30% of Americans who still have a job.

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