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    Re: ATF director to resign, agency sources say

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    Corruption, no, stupidity, yes. You cannot become a media whore and share privileged info while in a job like that. It's that simple. Do you see how careful I am along with Zyphillin with posts on this forum?
    Also, him not reporting it could be a crime.
    It's called Misprision of felony.

    Let us not also forget that some officials in the Justice Department could be guilty of perjury.
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    Re: ATF director to resign, agency sources say

    ... people of rank and authority at HQ are paying close attention to this case ...
    ... Dodson said he was told “the U.S. Attorney is on board, and it was Mr. [Emory] Hurley, and they say there is nothing illegal going on.”
    ... Initially, top Justice Department officials denied weapons were allowed to escape into criminal networks.

    “At the outset, the allegation described in your January 27 letter – that ATF ’sanctioned’ or otherwise knowingly allowed the sale of assault weapons to a straw purchaser who then transported them into Mexico – is false,” a Feb. 4 letter from Weich to Issa and Iowa Republican Sen. Charles Grassley said.

    “ATF makes every effort to interdict weapons that have been purchased illegally and prevent their transportation to Mexico,” the letter said.

    According to the testimony of the four ATF agents and a broad range of other evidence, the second sentence (“every effort”) is plainly false.

    Issa’s report says since the Feb. 4 letter, Justice Department officials have clarified that their denial was only meant to encompass instances when the weapon purchasers themselves physically crossed the U.S.-Mexico border with the weapons they had purchased illegally under ATF surveillance. ...
    DoJ appears to have stepped in it
    it's only a matter of how deep they stepped and who did the stepping
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    Re: ATF director to resign, agency sources say

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    I doubt that Holder approved this operation. And to think the White House had anything to do with it is just pure stupidity. I'm actually even shocked that the director knew specifically of this operation. This was just carried out in the Phoenix area, and probably was ordered by someone at the top in Phoenix. Anyway, different people should have to resign, not the acting agency director. The SAC for their Phoenix field office should be one of them.

    This operation had a good goal and was well intended, but to think that an agency as understaffed as ATF would be able to actually carefully monitor each of the firearms they decide to track rather than intercept is just ridiculous.

    The road to hell is paved with good intentions, and apparently, incompetence.
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    The Second Amendment has nothing to do with guns.

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    Re: ATF director to resign, agency sources say

    Maybe Senators Dianne Feinstein, Charles Schumer, and Sheldon White should have blamed the BATFE for the straw sales instead of Americans, whom they love to hate when it comes to guns. After all, these three are big supporters of Project Gunrunner and have lobbied strenuously to have Bill Clinton's ineffective crime bill reinstated. But hey, why not continue to blame America for problems in Mexico.
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    Re: ATF director to resign, agency sources say

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Maybe Senators Dianne Feinstein, Charles Schumer, and Sheldon White should have blamed the BATFE for the straw sales instead of Americans, whom they love to hate when it comes to guns. After all, these three are big supporters of Project Gunrunner and have lobbied strenuously to have Bill Clinton's ineffective crime bill reinstated. But hey, why not continue to blame America for problems in Mexico.
    Technically you are somewhat to blame, since your population consumes a vast quantity of illegal drugs, contributing financially to the violence, not to mention the vast number of americans involved in the trade themselves.

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