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AP NewsBreak: A twist in Obama's health care law

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WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama's health care law would let several million middle-class people get nearly free insurance meant for the poor, a twist government number crunchers say they discovered only after the complex bill was signed.
The change would affect early retirees: A married couple could have an annual income of about $64,000 and still get Medicaid, said officials who make long-range cost estimates for the Health and Human Services department.
Up to 3 million more people could qualify for Medicaid in 2014 as a result of the anomaly. That's because, in a major change from today, most of their Social Security benefits would no longer be counted as income for determining eligibility. It might be compared to allowing middle-class people to qualify for food stamps.
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AP NewsBreak: A twist in Obama's health care law - Yahoo! News

Yes, the more we know about Obamacare, the more we realize... what a pile of **** it was.
 
This is supposedly a "glitch".
Yeahright.
:roll:
 
Suuuuuurre! What an "accident."

:bs
 
Awesome. Here's hoping that they find even more "glitches" that cover even more people so that they don't have to worry about losing their life savings due to catastrophic or even not-so-catastrophic health issues.
 
toddwv said:
Awesome. Here's hoping that they find even more "glitches" that cover even more people so that they don't have to worry about losing their life savings due to catastrophic or even not-so-catastrophic health issues.
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We cannot afford it. So you hate America and want to enslave future Generations to unsustainable debt?
 
toddwv said:
Awesome. Here's hoping that they find even more "glitches" that cover even more people so that they don't have to worry about losing their life savings due to catastrophic or even not-so-catastrophic health issues.
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Yes... because I am, somehow, responsible for providing health care to these people.
 
MrVicchio said:
We cannot afford it. So you hate America and want to enslave future Generations to unsustainable debt?
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So long as it brings more people to vote Democrat, they don't really care.
 
MrVicchio said:
We cannot afford it. So you hate America and want to enslave future Generations to unsustainable debt?
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Right, but we CAN afford trillions of dollars in unnecessary wars? C'mon... change that old broken record.

How about the fact that these "future generations" are likely to lose what little inheritance that their parents can pass on as estates are eaten up to pay off medical bills? Of course, that only really affects lower and middle class so who gives a flying ****, amiright?
 
PzKfW IVe said:
Yes... because I am, somehow, responsible for providing health care to these people.
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We all pay for **** we don't want. That's an inherent part of being a society. If you don't like it, move to some country with less government interference like Somalia or Afghanistan.
 
PzKfW IVe said:
Yes... because I am, somehow, responsible for providing health care to these people.
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No that is what medical professionals are there for. However if you are member of any insurance pool you will help pay the bills of those that get sick and or injured.
 
toddwv said:
We all pay for **** we don't want. That's an inherent part of being a society. If you don't like it, move to some country with less government interference like Somalia or Afghanistan.
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Tell you (by you I mean as a political faction that obviously doesn't think that people going bankrupt to pay medical bills for critical care is important) what, you front the trillions of dollars that we dumped into the wars, plus the trillions of dollars that we've dumped into our nuclear stockpile, plus the trillions of dollars that we've paid in interest in order to finance certain "defensive" actions (ie wars).

We'll put up the money to make sure that grandma and grandpa don't have to sell their house to pay their medical bills. Deal?
 
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toddwv said:
Tell you (by you I mean as a political faction that obviously doesn't think that people going bankrupt to pay medical bills for critical care) what, you front the trillions of dollars that we dumped into the wars, plus the trillions of dollars that we've dumped into our nuclear stockpile, plus the trillions of dollars that we've paid in interest in order to finance certain "defensive" actions (ie wars).

We'll put up the money to make sure that grandma and grandpa don't have to sell their house to pay their medical bills. Deal?
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And the Dems didn't do that when they were in charge for because????
 
Whovian said:
And the Dems didn't do that when they were in charge for because????
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The did. The House version had the single payer option. Senate rules, however, allow the minority party to pretty much require a super-majority and there are so many ways to block legislation that compromise is required.
 
winston53660 said:
No that is what medical professionals are there for.
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I'll assume you are deliberately missing the point in an effort to not have to address it.

However if you are member of any insurance pool you will help pay the bills of those that get sick and or injured.
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Voluntary v involuntary, thus, apples and oranges.
 
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toddwv said:
We all pay for **** we don't want. That's an inherent part of being a society.
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No, its not an -inherent- part of a society - and it misses the point.
Forcing someone to provide goods and services to people that did nothing to earn them is nothing short of involuntary servitude.
Why do you support involuntary servitude?

If you don't like it, move to some country with less government interference like Somalia or Afghanistan.
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-That's- mature. I'll be sure to remind you of this the next time you discuss something you don't like.
 
toddwv said:
Tell you (by you I mean as a political faction that obviously doesn't think that people going bankrupt to pay medical bills for critical care is important) what, you front the trillions of dollars that we dumped into the wars, plus the trillions of dollars that we've dumped into our nuclear stockpile, plus the trillions of dollars that we've paid in interest in order to finance certain "defensive" actions (ie wars).

We'll put up the money to make sure that grandma and grandpa don't have to sell their house to pay their medical bills. Deal?
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Do you often carry on incoherent conversations with yourself?
 
PzKfW IVe said:
I'll assume you are deliberatly missing the point in an effort to not have to address it.


Voluntary v involuntary, thus, apples and oranges.
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I said any insurance pool I did not specify public or private.

And at this point in time ERs have to accept people.
 
winston53660 said:
I said any insurance pool I did not specify public or private.
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Irrelevant - insurance is voluntary.
Aside from that - you haven't said anyting here that addresses my point any better than the first time you evaded it.
 
MrVicchio said:
We cannot afford it. So you hate America and want to enslave future Generations to unsustainable debt?
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Wow. From "want to provide healthcare to more people" to "hate America and want to enslave future generations."

If we're going with crazy absolutism world, clearly you want to end all health care for every person, even those who can afford it. You just expressed an opinion opposed to providing health care for people, so therefore you are always against healthcare under any circumstances.

Absolutism is fun!
 
PzKfW IVe said:
Irrelevant - insurance is voluntary.
Aside from that - you haven't said anyting here that addresses my point any better than the first time you evaded it.
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Unless you are willing to turn people away from ERs you do not have a point.
 
winston53660 said:
Unless you are willing to turn people away from ERs you do not have a point.
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Of course I do. You just don't posess the capacity to effecitvely address it, as evidenced by your third failure to do so.

I oppose forcing people to provide goods and services to those that did not earn them, as doing creates a condition of involuntary servitude.
Why do you support involuntary servitude?
 
PzKfW IVe said:
Of course I do. You just don't posess the capacity to effecitvely address it, as evidenced by your third failure to do so.

I oppose forcing people to provide goods and services to those that did not earn them, as doing creates a condition of involuntary servitude.
Why do you support involuntary servitude?
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A Doctor is free to walk out of the ER time they want to. If they CHOOSE to stay they must treat all comers regardless of ability to pay. This winds up being on your bill. So unless you are willing to turn people away from the ER you do not have a point.
 
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PzKfW IVe said:
This is supposedly a "glitch".
Yeahright.
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Yeah...I feel so angry about a "glitch" that gets more people health care. How tragic. :lol:
Bwahahahahaha, well played Democrats. This is awesome. :lamo
 
I think as usual …. the liberal fraction in here in their haste to support any government hand out .. . fails to see the point.

If a couple of age to get Medicaid, has an income of $64,000 per year, should be able to afford insurance without government help. Chances are good that their kids are grown and on their own, their house is paid for. That $64,000 income should well be able to afford their own insurance.

I'm not sure where liberals will stop with their living off of other people, but lets take into consideration that the average income in the US is around or under $50,000 a year, now you are expecting those people earning $50,000 a year to pay for retired people health care while they are earning $64,000 a year ???
 
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