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    Re: President Obama To Announce Details of Afghanistan Strategy On Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You do realize that if you read Gates comments honestly, it would not support the claim made. I wonder which way you'll go?
    US troop withdrawal overshadows defence personnel changes - Telegraph

    Mr Gates said during a visit to Afghanistan earlier this month that it is too soon to adjust strategy, even taking into account the impact of the May 2 killing of al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden in Pakistan.

    Mr Gates also has cautioned against a rapid drawdown of US forces. He has argued that more time is needed to pound the Taliban to the point where its leaders will feel compelled to engage in serious peace talks. On the other hand, the administration knows the US public is weary of war – its human and financial costs.

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    Re: President Obama To Announce Details of Afghanistan Strategy On Wednesday

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    US troop withdrawal overshadows defence personnel changes - Telegraph

    Mr Gates said during a visit to Afghanistan earlier this month that it is too soon to adjust strategy, even taking into account the impact of the May 2 killing of al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden in Pakistan.

    Mr Gates also has cautioned against a rapid drawdown of US forces. He has argued that more time is needed to pound the Taliban to the point where its leaders will feel compelled to engage in serious peace talks. On the other hand, the administration knows the US public is weary of war – its human and financial costs.
    Doesn't support your claim. Knowing the public is weary doesn't mean by any streach that Obama is only doing to get re-elected. Nor does Gates say he is.

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    Re: President Obama To Announce Details of Afghanistan Strategy On Wednesday

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    sure, domestic concerns have nothing to do with the 2012 election

    LOL!

    honestly reading, that is
    That wasn't his claim.

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    Re: President Obama To Announce Details of Afghanistan Strategy On Wednesday

    "Obama's decision is aimed at placating an American public tired of a 10-year war that has cost 1,522 US lives."

    link above

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    Re: President Obama To Announce Details of Afghanistan Strategy On Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Doesn't support your claim. Knowing the public is weary doesn't mean by any streach that Obama is only doing to get re-elected. Nor does Gates say he is.
    That was not my claim. My claim is Obama is ignoring his generals and advisers for political reasons. This link shows Obama is not listening to Gates and making sure that troops are coming home at election time so he can use it in is campaign

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    Re: President Obama To Announce Details of Afghanistan Strategy On Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    That was not my claim. My claim is Obama is ignoring his generals and advisers for political reasons. This link shows Obama is not listening to Gates and making sure that troops are coming home at election time so he can use it in is campaign
    I believe history shows that President Truman did much the same thing in ignoring one of his generals and it is considered as one of his finest hours.
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    Re: President Obama To Announce Details of Afghanistan Strategy On Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    That was not my claim. My claim is Obama is ignoring his generals and advisers for political reasons. This link shows Obama is not listening to Gates and making sure that troops are coming home at election time so he can use it in is campaign
    Again, you don't support that. Generals have been ignored before and will be again. There are reasons for this beyond the purely political.

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    Re: President Obama To Announce Details of Afghanistan Strategy On Wednesday

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    I believe history shows that President Truman did much the same thing in ignoring one of his generals and it is considered as one of his finest hours.
    So Truman did it to win an election?

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    Re: President Obama To Announce Details of Afghanistan Strategy On Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Again, you don't support that. Generals have been ignored before and will be again. There are reasons for this beyond the purely political.
    When the final amount of troops come home at election time so Obama can use it as a campaign gimmick it is totally about his election and nothing else.

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    Re: President Obama To Announce Details of Afghanistan Strategy On Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    When the final amount of troops come home at election time so Obama can use it as a campaign gimmick it is totally about his election and nothing else.
    Now that is what you have to support. That there is nothing else. I'll wait.

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