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    Re: US troops coming home? Obama to say on Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Swizz View Post
    US troops coming home? Obama to say on Wednesday - Yahoo! News
    So what will he do?
    - Insignificant drawdown so he doesn't break his promise? (say, 1-2,000 troops come home)
    - Relatively significant start of a drawdown? (5-10,000)
    - Huge withdrawal? (20,000 or more)
    What SHOULD he do?
    I tend to think it'll be somewhere mid-range, which seems about right to me.
    No, the troops aren't coming home. This is just another Obama campaign lie. Don't fall for it.
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    Re: US troops coming home? Obama to say on Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    My son was in that effort. He said we set Iraq back a century in their military capability. Anyone with any knowledge of Post Persian war Iraq was aware, they were not a threat to us or their neighbors.

    One of the most powerful countries on the planet invading one of the weakest at the time. Really makes you wonder what our real motive was, doesn't it?
    Your son is quite mistaken, too.

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    Re: US troops coming home? Obama to say on Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Your son is quite mistaken, too.
    Prove him wrong. Document any military threat the military or the CIA discovered when we invaded Iraq. I'll wait.
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    Re: US troops coming home? Obama to say on Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That was the attitude back in the 30's and in the 90's. How did that turn out for us??
    I suggest we don't let Saudis steal our planes anymore. Problem solved! I guess some get frightened more easily than others!
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    Re: US troops coming home? Obama to say on Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Prove him wrong. Document any military threat the military or the CIA discovered when we invaded Iraq. I'll wait.
    I think you might be waiting for quite a while......


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    Re: US troops coming home? Obama to say on Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Prove him wrong. Document any military threat the military or the CIA discovered when we invaded Iraq. I'll wait.
    The reason for the no-fly zones, were because of the military threat that the Iraqi armed forces posed for it's neighbors and it's citizens.

    Set them back a hundred years my ass! They still had jets and tanks in 2003. Ever been fired upon by a T-72? Or a Mig 21?

    The Iraqi Army fielded 5 corps(+) in 2003, with nearly a half million troops afield. That's a military threat, in anyone's neighborhood.

    1st Corps, near Kirkuk consisted of the 5th Mechanized Division, 2nd Infantry Division, 8th Infantry Division and the 38th Infantry Division.

    2nd Corps, near Diyala, had the 3rd Armored Division, 15th Infantry Division, and 34th Infantry Division.

    3rd Corps, near An Nasiriyah, had the 6th Armored Division, the 51st Mechanized Division, and the 11th Infantry Division.

    4th Corps, near Amarah, included the 10th Armored Division, 14th Infantry Division and 18th Infantry Division.

    5th Corps, near Mosul, had the 1st Mechanized Division, and the 4th, 7th, and 16th Infantry Divisions.

    Western Desert Force, consisting of an armored infantry division and other units in western Iraq

    Iraqi Army - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    For comparitive purposes, this is the Kuwaiti Army.

    AlJiwan Camp (HQ)
    6th (AlTahreer) Mechanized Brigade
    15th (Mubark) Armoured Brigade
    26th (AlSoor) Mechanized Brigade
    35th (AlShaheed) Armoured Brigade
    94th (AlYarmouk) Mechanized Brigade
    25th Commando Brigade (Independent)
    National Guard Division (Independent)
    AlSomoud Camp
    Kathma Camp
    AlTahreer Camp

    Kuwaiti Army - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Kuwaits Army consisted of a little more than two divisions, while Iraq's army consisted of 41.

    The Saudi Army,

    Armor

    4th (King Fah’d) Armoured Brigade
    8th Armoured Brigade
    12th Armoured Brigade
    45th Armoured Brigade
    the four armoured brigades, 8 mechanized


    Mechanized

    6th Mechanized Brigade
    8th Mechanized Brigade
    10th Mechanized Brigade
    11th Mechanized Brigade
    17th Mechanized Brigade
    18th Mechanized Brigade
    19th Mechanized Brigade
    20th Mechanized Brigade


    Infantry

    unkown number of infantry brigades
    10th Infantry Brigade

    Airborne

    The Airborne Brigade
    4th Airborne Battalion
    5th Airborne Battalion

    Artillery Battalions

    five artillery battalions
    14th FA (Towed, 155) Battalion
    15th FA (MLRS) Battalion
    18th Missile (MLRS) Battalion

    Saudi Arabian Army - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    The Saudi Army can field the equivalent of about 5 divisions, to Iraq's 41.

    The argument we heard from the Leftists in 2003 was there was no need to invade Iraq, because Saddam's army was, "contained". The reason it was contained, was because it still posed a threat to it's neighbors.

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    Re: US troops coming home? Obama to say on Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I think you might be waiting for quite a while......
    You thought wrong. I had to go piss, so it took a couple extra minutes.

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    Re: US troops coming home? Obama to say on Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I suggest we don't let Saudis steal our planes anymore. Problem solved! I guess some get frightened more easily than others!
    I say we crack down on Muslims, in general.

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    Re: US troops coming home? Obama to say on Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The reason for the no-fly zones, were because of the military threat that the Iraqi armed forces posed for it's neighbors and it's citizens.

    Set them back a hundred years my ass! They still had jets and tanks in 2003. Ever been fired upon by a T-72? Or a Mig 21?

    The Iraqi Army fielded 5 corps(+) in 2003, with nearly a half million troops afield. That's a military threat, in anyone's neighborhood.



    For comparitive purposes, this is the Kuwaiti Army.



    Kuwaits Army consisted of a little more than two divisions, while Iraq's army consisted of 41.

    The Saudi Army,



    The Saudi Army can field the equivalent of about 5 divisions, to Iraq's 41.

    The argument we heard from the Leftists in 2003 was there was no need to invade Iraq, because Saddam's army was, "contained". The reason it was contained, was because it still posed a threat to it's neighbors.
    now we are getting somewhere
    you finally acknowledge that sadam's military was being contained
    which tells us there was absolutely no basis for us to press the military engagement any further
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: US troops coming home? Obama to say on Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    now we are getting somewhere
    you finally acknowledge that sadam's military was being contained
    which tells us there was absolutely no basis for us to press the military engagement any further
    How's that new boat? Float better than the one you just jumped out of?

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