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    Re: President Obama To Announce Details of Afghanistan Strategy On Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I'm not going to argue in favor of the strategy used in Afghanistan, but you can put money on us going back in a few years.
    Fair enough, but remember, we went into A-stan to get AQ and we have done that in spades

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    Re: President Obama To Announce Details of Afghanistan Strategy On Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I'm not going to argue in favor of the strategy used in Afghanistan, but you can put money on us going back in a few years.
    That would be fine if war was taken seriously.

    The idea is to defeat them to the point where any thought of any further aggression would be anathema.

    Think Germany (the second time around) and Japan. Very peaceful people now.

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    Re: President Obama To Announce Details of Afghanistan Strategy On Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Fair enough, but remember, we went into A-stan to get AQ and we have done that in spades
    We spanked them well enough, but we didn't destroy their will to wage war against us.

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    Re: President Obama To Announce Details of Afghanistan Strategy On Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post

    So saying one thing during a campaign and then another after winning is now called nuance? Nuance is what makes the roses grow.



    Then that could have been done much earlier and Obama could have been honest about it. But in any case Bush's Iraq seems to have don better than Obama's Afghanistan.
    He is right that AFghanistan derseved attention. I agreed with that. He is correct that Bush dropped the ball by going on his snipe hunt in Iraq. And yes, it could have been done much earlier. Where I disagreed with Obama was in him listening to his generals and deciding to go ahead with a surge that even they admitted might not succeed even if they got everything they wanted. He would have been better to have limited the mission to what we needed.

    He did not say what you clai though. So, there was no real lie.
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    Re: President Obama To Announce Details of Afghanistan Strategy On Wednesday

    But the surge worked did it not?

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    Re: President Obama To Announce Details of Afghanistan Strategy On Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    But the surge worked did it not?
    What's worked? We've been in Afghanistan for a decade, with nothing suggesting we wouldn't be there for another decade.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: President Obama To Announce Details of Afghanistan Strategy On Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    But the surge worked did it not?
    Obama cocked it up. He went against everything his commanders on the ground suggested.

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    Re: President Obama To Announce Details of Afghanistan Strategy On Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Why not? We did that in Europe and it turned out all right.
    Lots of factors are in play....Today (like in now) The majority of, the politician's mindset is that they aren't looking at what is best for the nation as their primary goal, at least most of the time. They are looking out for gains in their party power and their own re-election. Consequently, there is very, very little long term thinking and planning.

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    Re: President Obama To Announce Details of Afghanistan Strategy On Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Obama cocked it up. He went against everything his commanders on the ground suggested.
    If he had, there would not have been a surge. ANd I would have agreed with him.

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    Re: President Obama To Announce Details of Afghanistan Strategy On Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Obama cocked it up. He went against everything his commanders on the ground suggested.
    That's not true at all. You just want to find ways to go against the President. His plan has been right on the money.

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